Im totally down with this - I download a fair amount, but if its stuff I
like I'll go buy it [99.9% of the time on vinyl] otherwise it justs gets
deleted from my hd. I also like to keep hold of mp3s of stuff I buy on vinyl
so I can listen on my mp3 player without always having to encode myself or
do a mix with those tunes in. I think the amount I spend on music has
increased on avg due to the huge exposure I get to new material I wouldnt
normally get to hear etc.

The other thign I really like is the ability to download mp3s of live sets
that you cant buy in the shops. I wouldn't say Im not supporting the artists
though - I have for example some Jeff Mills live mp3 mixes sitting on my
player and although on the surface Jeff doesn't benefit from this
financially I always make the effort to go see him play out and like most
folk on this list I own a large proportion of the axis/purpose maker
catalogue :)

</2pence> :D marc

> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Powers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:28 AM
> To: 'Rc'; 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: RE: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
> 
> 
> I don't think this is correct.  Most heads enjoy owning our 
> favorite music in some form, often vinyl for many collectors. 
>  I personally download tons of music.  I also am a vinyl 
> junkie.  I'm not that fond of ordering over the internet.  
> This means, most of what I download, I can't find in my local 
> (Chicago) record store.  When I happen to download something 
> I really like, and find it locally, I will usually buy it on sight.
> 
> If I didn't download music, I would still buy the same amount 
> of music. There is just so much music out there.  However, my 
> music buying choices would be less informed.  There are 
> artists I would not have discovered without downloading.  I 
> might even buy less, just because I had less of an idea what 
> might suit my tastes and where to look for it.  I do try to 
> avoid buying from major labels on purpose, so I mostly don't 
> buy CDs and download most of that type of thing.  I 
> especially don't like paying inflated prices to a major label 
> for anything from an artist who is dead.  I might buy a 
> used/rare vinyl at a local store of course, but that doesn't 
> go to the record company.  
> 
> You can compete with free by offering a superior, reasonably 
> priced, and legitimate product.  For me personally, I also 
> want to buy a product that doesn't support a corporate agenda 
> that is totally counter to my interests as a 
> musician/composer, and also my interests as a citizen.
> 
> -David
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rc [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 5:37 PM
> To: 313@hyperreal.org
> Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA
> 
> that may be true - but this doesn't really effect you does it?
> 
> what proportion of the music you buy is aligned with major 
> record labels?
> 
> it worries me when people use the rationalisation that it's 
> only hurting snr. executives from major record labels when 
> they download music off p2p programs and then they go and 
> download detroit stuff or other stuff which major record 
> labels have no rights vested within. Music from composers 
> they claim to support but then go and download free of charge?
> 
> one thing that's strikingly clear - no matter where the music 
> is from, and no matter how much it would normally cost - you 
> can't compete with free.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> on 11/9/03 8:49 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >> i'm not sure what to think of all this.
> > well, let's see...the recording industry has flooded the maketplace
> with
> > sh!t which, in reality has no value, overcharged people for it,
> switched to
> > a digital format so that they could screw the craftspeople (not
> artists) who
> > make this stuff...so people decided not to pay for it and 
> are now they
> are
> > drowning in it and want to extort a life-jacket from you (the
> consumer)...
> > 
> > i think it's great!
> > 
> > b
> > 
> 
> 
> 

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