Yet some more conspiracy theories : "Shock factor aside, however, some observers believed the Senate's interest in fighting illegal porn file-swapping is largely fueled by lobbying from the recording industry.
Wendy Seltzer, an attorney with the Electronic Frontier Foundation, said the Senate was using the ever-popular political cause of cracking down on child porn as a pretext to target peer-to-peer networks. There are plenty of other technologies that pornographers employ that lawmakers leave alone" http://www.wired.com/news/business/0,1367,60368,00.html -----Original Message----- From: lisa [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 11:32 AM To: Martin Cc: Redmond, Ja'Maul; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; jurren baars; 313@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA It's yet another "last ditch effort" because they were unsuccessful in sueing many p2p companies whose software is used for legitimate purposes (of course, in addition to music sharing). Napster, et al were easy (in comparison) to tackle because of how they were constructed and used. the current crop of p2p, not so easy plus they keep changing. so they came after the people, flexing their legal muscles whilst creeping people out at the thought that the government and/or RIAA can find out what you've been doing in the privacy of your home. privacy advocates have had lots to say about this (some of them in powerful positions) and although the US government could really give a f-ck ('cos they are quite interested in restricting our privacy), there are positive things happening in some courts choosing to not side with the RIAA. Let's hope it continues. Until the system is balanced for all participants - in terms agreeable to each (artists, consumers/users, prod/dist companies, etc.) - it will not work and someone will be unhappy. So change must happen. Martin, it's often cheaper for me to order new, non-US CDs & vinyl from a shop in Leeds than to get them here, even including shipping. Pretty ridiculous eh? And you should see how much they cost in Vancouver! I checked out a few vinyl & CD DJ shops there and found the prices to be really inflated. And yes, that's including the conversion from CA to US currency. :P On this general topic, ya'll might enjoy this: http://www.downhillbattle.org/itunes/ lisa Martin wrote: > This is nothing more than PR spin, they will probably drop the case > due to the fact that this 12yr old won't have to money nor will her > parents. Plus that will teach her to collect Backstreets boys sh*te - > should be made the law I think... > > And you should try buying CD's in the UK, 3 times as much - still it > keeps Mick Hucknall off the streets... > > md > > > > 11/9/03 1:40 PM Redmond, Ja'[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > >>I really think the buying public should form a c.d. boycott until this >>stuff stops. If they think a thirty percent drop is bad what if just >>10% of the people we contacted through e-mail stopped buying c.d.'s? >>That's a lot of people. And the sales would drop even more. I hate for >>the artist to be in the middle of this, but then maybe more of them >>would step up also. >> >>I would love to try to get this started or join a boycott that may >>have already started. I would need all the information,,i.e. >>facts,,rules and everything to send to people so they can make an >>intelkligent decision themselves. Does anyone know of where I can get >>the information behind the lawsuits? >> >>Ja'Maul Redmond >> >>PERKINS & WILL >> >>1100 South Tryon Street, Suite 300 >>Charlotte, North Carolina 28203 >> >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2003 6:30 PM >>To: jurren baars >>Cc: 313@hyperreal.org >>Subject: Re: (313) 12 year old is sued by the RIAA >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>$2000 for a thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? >> >>that's $2 per song!!! >> >>Do you suppose that the RIAA is looking at each song and each artist >>that she downloaded and giving them their fair amount? As if she had >>bought a CD from each of them - and then does that affect their chart >>position? >> >>I really doubt they are distributing the money to the artists - many >>of whom seem to be rather silent on the issue lately (that I've >>noticed). Anyone see/hear/read artists speaking out against what the >>RIAA is doing? >> >>I think their lawyers could drop $2000 at dinner after the pre-trial >>hearing (business expense - it's a meeting to figure out the "game >>plan", honest!). >> >> >>MEK >> >> >> >> >> "jurren baars" >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 313@hyperreal.org >> >> mail.com> cc: >> >> Subject: Re: (313) 12 >>year old is sued by the RIAA >> 09/10/03 04:31 PM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>the RIAA is now offering an amnesty program to filesharers, read here: >>http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=3399602 >> >>some people are fighting back: >>http://www.rollingstone.com/news/newsarticle.asp?nid=18658&afl=frnd >> >>the same thing is happening here in the netherlands; 'stichting brein' >>an organisation that could be compared to the RIAA, has been demanding >>the names of people who's IP adresses they've got. But the >>internetproviders refuse to give those names, referring to those >>persons privacy rights. christiaan alberdingk thijm [kazaa's lawyer] >>points out on the website of his lawfirm why 'stichting brein' has not >>much chance of winning their fight for those names. >> >>i'm not sure what to think of all this. >> >>first of all, the extreme long time it took the recording industry to >>do something it could have done long ago, thereby only making things >>worse. and secondly giving the public the wrong impression; the >>impression that eventhough filesharing is not ok, it will have no >>consequence on you. >> >>the way they sue 12 year olds doesn't really help them either, it's >>like a shopkeeper who sees hundreds of people stealing from his shop >>day in day out, and finally does something about it, by picking out >>the weekest person >> >>that has ever done so, in the case a 12 year old. >> >>third, i'm really puzzled by all these settlements. $2000 for a >>thousand songs she allegedly shared through her computer? that's $2 >>per song!!! in court the RIAA would have to convince the judge and the >>jury that this girls filesharing has caused the recording industry >>$2000 damage. they could NEVER pull that off! they would even face a >>hard time trying to prove that there is a direct link beteen the >>decrease in sales in the music industry, and filesharing. just look at >>the shift in sales towards dvd's or even ringtones, and combine that >>with the bad economy. >> >>jurren >> >>_________________________________________________________________ >>MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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