That's funny, I actually thought there was a real parallel between the 
OutKast and Erykah album! That and the Common record, and The Roots album
Phrenology too.
Both the Badu album and the OutKast are departing from what is expected of
urban music.
It's the antithesis of Chingy, et al, who I feel are making very conformist
records.
They're testing their (US) urban audience, Black and white.
Does anyone really believe they're making albums to please the white media?
I'd give 'em way more cred than that.
Regardless if OutKast annoy The Source, good. It's hit an all-time low with
Benzino's ridiculous self-promotional schemes, anyway.
Anyway, everyone maintains it was Erykah who got Andre wearing those
clothes. ;)

> thats funny, i dont see anything experimental about andre's disc.
> i just see weakness fronting on being "fresh" but it just sounds
> boring. i mean really my main complaint with outkast has been
> their attempts to please mainstream white media by being the
> "weird" black rappers. i like that big boi knows his strengths
> enough to still be different, but not just for difference's sake.
> there was a really good article in the nytimes
> http://www.nytimes.com/2003/10/05/arts/music/05SANN.html?8hpib
> comparing the recent output of outkast and erykah badu, and they
> hit the nail on the head as far as im concerned. erykah's album
> crushes the outkast joint, its not even close, and its mainly
> because i feel like she wasnt trying to impress anyone in making
> it. anyway, outkast were undeniably better when andre wasnt
> wearing feather boas and acting like a fool. do you even remember
> "the player's ball" or "elevators"? "elevators" will smash
> anything theyve done before or since it......
>
>>p.s.  I had no idea that Kurt Cobain was ever cool...they weren't
> even a
>>good punk band...
>
> thats because they werent really a punk band. this isnt the place
> to discuss this topic, but if you heard nirvana and thought "punk
> band" then you either dont know what punk sounds like, or you
> didnt actually listen to nirvana. if anything they were like a
> combination of indie rock's songwriting with punk's attitude and
> metal's power, hardly a good example of a "punk" band.
>
> tom
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