<cough> 
We have two of these Robin, well tacky and not enough nob's but they do the
trick - needs new drivers as some things are just a little too slow for our
liking. Not sure how long they are going to hold up as well...


23/1/04 12:29 PM [EMAIL PROTECTED]

> 
> i think i'm gonna plump for one of these...nice and cheap too:
> 
> http://www.evolution.co.uk/products/evo_xsession.htm
> 
> i wonder if the mxf8 from the Notron people will be good (eh martin? :)
> 
> i guess the A&H xone 92 (drool) is the ultimate but at £1150 it's way
> out of my league!
> 
> 
> 
> robin...
> 
> 
> Martin wrote:
>> True, true - I've seen some great stuff done with both - but I think the
>> game is about to get hotter - on Wednesday I witnessed one of the best, if
>> not only real-time controllers for these packages - I can't say any more, as
>> I'm under an NDA but the end of Feb will be very interesting...
>> 
>> 
>> 23/1/04 11:47 AM Brendan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> 
>> 
>>> Alex Bond wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> so maybe digital dj'ing allows someone to think more about
>>>> programming than actual mixing (as it's virtually 'automatic')
>>>> and I think that has to be a good thing. I think?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> I'd actually say that digital dj'ing gives DJs the flexibility to choose how
>>> much "automation" they want to use - you're not *restricted* to nicely
>>> automated beatmatching and so on if you don't want to be.
>>> 
>>> For example, I've been using Ableton heavily for over a year now (having
>>> used
>>> it on the Offworld Party Time and All Cylinders mixes, as well as playing
>>> out
>>> with it three or four times) and count myself as a pretty experienced user
>>> by
>>> now. Recently, however, I played with Final Scratch for the first time, and
>>> it
>>> was a major eye-opener.
>>> 
>>> It's a different world from Ableton altogether; in the world of Ableton, if
>>> you want imprecision in your mixes, you have to actually *build it in* (do
>>> very minor adjustments to the warp markers etc to give the impression tracks
>>> are drifting subtly in and out of time), which is quite bizarre when you
>>> think
>>> about it. However, with Final Scatch, there's really no difference from
>>> vinyl
>>> mixing apart from the fact that you can play tracks that only exist on hard
>>> drive as well as tracks that exist on vinyl.
>>> 
>>> So there's space in the world for both Final Scratch and Ableton Live, but
>>> the
>>> two of them represent completely opposite sides of the whole spectrum of
>>> digital mixing. Want to keep the rawness and imprecision of vinyl mixing
>>> without having to break your back carrying records around? Use Final
>>> Scratch.
>>> Want to be able to concentrate more on the arrangement, sound and
>>> programming
>>> of your mix than on the mechanics of mixing? Use Ableton Live. Ideally? Use
>>> a
>>> combination of the two as well as real records (that's my approach at
>>> least!).
>>> 
>>> All in all, I do think it's a good thing that when a person thinks "I'm
>>> going
>>> to do a mix" there are a number of approaches he or she can adopt in
>>> producing
>>> that mix; each of which will play to different strengths that DJ might have,
>>> each of which will affect the nature and structure of the mix in interesting
>>> ways. Not all digital DJs will automate their beatmixing and concentrate
>>> more
>>> on structure; maybe the key thing to understand about digital DJing is that
>>> it
>>> will lead to a whole bunch of people doing a whole range of different
>>> things,
>>> a lot of which we can't really predict right now.
>>> 
>>> Brendan
>>> www.lunarselector.com
>>> www.non-stop-djs.com
>>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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