I don't mind a bit of noise to be honest, if there was less chit chat do you
all feel there would be more people from the D here, is that what this is
about? What next - We need more one eyed lesbo women in wheelchairs :)

I'd love to see more quality posts, with info, interviews and mixes but it's
up to the list as a whole to make the effort to change things around, no
good just moaning.

Take the rough with the smooth, "put up or shut up" my old man used to say.

Martin Dust



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Brendan Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <313@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Monday, March 08, 2004 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: (313) 313's Signal to noise ratio


> It seems to me that, as a self-moderated list, what the 313 list is
supposed
> to do is - this may seem a little radical - moderate itself. By this I
don't
> mean converting the 313 list into a web forum or installing some vengeful
> and pedantic autocrat as arbiter of what should or should not be discussed
> on 313.
>
> Instead, why not chip in whenever you think someone's posted something
that
> steps over the line into wholly off-topic territory? Conversations like
this
> thread can be a bit ineffectual sometimes, because while there might be a
> common agreement that "there should be less extraneous posts" there are
most
> likely differing ideas on what exactly constitutes an extraneous post. And
> as long as that's the case, this issue will just keep on coming up.
>
> I remember a good few years back (it's 313's tenth anniversary in
September)
> there used to be the "ob313" habit, with people excusing off-topic content
> by sticking something pointedly on-topic into the e-mail as well. That
> convention seemed to stabilise things for quite a while; some similar
common
> notion of what makes a post acceptable or unacceptable might well be
helpful
> now.
>
> For example, a post I made last week is what I'd actually call
unacceptable:
> the one where I jokily responded to MEK's post about being
> definition-obsessed. That sort of thing is a bit much, and I'm willing to
> hold my hands up to it.
>
> But what would it take to have made it an acceptable post? An ob313-type
> sentence immediately after the pointless remark? A couple of sentences on,
> say, the degree to which Detroit techno fans are definition-obsessed
> compared to the "mainstream" electronic music community? That's the
question
> that needs to be answered, and I think that once the line's been
established
> we can get back to the sorts of engaging and often quite challenging
debates
> that used to take place here on 313. There's no need to burn down the
whole
> house just because someone spilt an ashtray.
>
> Brendan
>
>
>


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