I will be mindful in future if such posts are going to distress and anger 
people but really do you think you can isolate - and compartmentalise
Detroit techno/house to that extent? I think it's extremely naive. Do you
think the actual makers of this music only sit at home and listen to techno
and house and nothing else? Do you not think these scenarios have an impact?

Kanye is relevant because he has been openly praised by several leading
Detroit artists - like Theo Parrish, Stacey Pullen and Derrick May. Theo,
especially. If you look at some of the directions Sound Signature is taking,
then perhaps you will see that they are not so disparate.
Like the Detroit pioneers West is trying to break down stereotypes of black
musicmakers in the US just in a different sphere. I actually think that Theo
and Kanye have rather similar backgrounds.

What's more when it comes to New Orleans, as we all know, the city has a
strong music legacy with the blues yet I think that the city will become
very much like contemporary Detroit in future - as Detroit was after the
racial riots, the city will be largely abandoned by a (white) middle-class
and populated by the poor. That will no doubt have ramifications for its
cultural legacy. Maybe history is repeating...


> lets get this off this list.
>
> this is not:
>
> 1.) politix 313
> 2.) kanye west 313
> 3.) r&b 313
>
> if you want to tie the whole f'ing world into 313 (as seems to be the case
> with r&b artists getting "play" on this list) then we might as well open it
> right up, because I would bet your mother that I can tie just about
> anything back to detroit, 6 degrees of seperation and all.
>
> sorry to be "that guy" but I get extra annoyed when someone puts "OT" in
> the subject of a post and sends it to the list ANYWAYS.
>
> if its OT, then its OT, ie this isnt the place for that particular post.
>
> my heart(and money) goes to those affected by the hurricane, but I dont
> care about what musicians say, I care about what notes they write, in what
> order, and the manner in which they are represented.  I can think for
> myself, thank you very much
>
> argh!
>
> sent with love,
>
> -Joe
>
>>
>> From: "Odeluga, Ken" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Date: 2005/09/07 Wed AM 11:03:09 EDT
>> To: "Cyclone Wehner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
>>         "313 Detroit" <313@hyperreal.org>
>> Subject: RE: (313)OT Kanye Revisited
>>
>>
>>
>> I note that in one wide US report on West's speech it was referred to as
>> a
>> "rant" which is also a very value-laden term in itself.
>>
>> > What I really admired was the way that despite obviously being full of
>> > emotion and nerves he composed himself and calmly delivered what he
>> wanted
>> > to say - major props indeed!
>>
>>
>> ***
>>
>> Was it Fox?!
>>
>> Whatever, this is the same media which was at the weekend saying New
>> Orleans escaped the worst of Katrina, so yeah I'd rather believe Mr West
>> thanks!
>>
>> K
>> 

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