plus - and this is my big argument against Madonna's talent (or where it
lies)

if you take a look at Bowie's top two albums from the mid to late 70s - Low
and Heroes

take a look at the writing credits -
on Low - 8 out of 11 are Bowie and only Bowie
on Heroes - 6 out of 10 are Bowie and only Bowie

take any Madonna album - ANY of them - hell take ALL of them together
you won't come up with 6 total songs that she composed herself

she NEEDS to have others write her songs - she can't go it alone - she's
incapable of doing so
and this isn't some anti-feminist stance, it's an anti-untalented stance

Maybe Bowie cheated people out of writing credits but I don't hear much
about that - anybody suing Bowie?
Madonna would get her ass kicked if she didn't give her producers credit.
Most likely because they write most of it.  She works as an editor most of
the time.
"I'll do this - I won't do that".

Bowie had talent - and it's waning naturally now as he has gotten older
(nothing wrong with that at all and I think it's to be expected).
Madonna is relying on others to keep her own career going - she fired
LaChappelle because he refused to make her look younger than she is for her
new video
he stated that himself - so much for her stance against ageism.  You can do
anything at any age as long as you don't look older.

MEK



Greg Earle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote on 11/17/2005 11:00:34 AM:

> On Nov 16, 2005, at 3:57 PM, robin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > hmmm if you saw a 50 year old bloke dancing around to a disco record
> > he'd made cos that was the fad of the day you might think that slightly
> > odd too.
>
> No, I'd think that was Alexander Robotnick at Fuse-In ... :-)
>
> On Nov 16, 2005, at 4:11 PM, "Cyclone Wehner" wrote:
>
> > they don't say those things in relation to Bowie, who's also delved
> > into
> > dance styles... If you survey the popular press, you pick it up
>
> On the contrary, Bowie got lambasted for trying Drum n' Bass on
> (I personally didn't mind it, but he forgot to eliminate Reeves
> Gabrels' godawful screeching guitar until it was far too late).
>
> The difference between Bowie (who is the best comparison to Madge)
> and Madonna is that Bowie was indisputably *the* Artist Of The 70's
> (just look at his albums, no one else comes close) before slowly
> fading into irrelevance after "Let's Dance", whereas Madonna ... erm.
> (Since when was Madonna *ever* "cutting edge"?!?)
>
>    - Greg
>

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