i would just like to state for the record that Carl does not get his nike's
custom made. thank you.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jayson B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 12:30 PM
To: 313@hyperreal.org
Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!



>i agree. most of laura's words were spot on.....why let a tiny,
>inconsequential phrase nullify all the excellent points she made -
> >shouldn't you make some allowances for cultural differences between
> >Laura's local communication styles and yours.


stupid nigger.


sorry, we use that phrase in my local town and its just a communication
style difference.  its just an inconsequential phrase.


Fact of the matter is, laura was talking about oppression, and keeping
people down, and then goes off and uses a phrase that oppresses and keeps
people down.  *that* invalidates her response, not to mention that her email
went off on a totally different tangent than the arguement at hand.  did she
make good points?  yes she did.  is juan atkins being oppressed?  are you
smoking CRACK?


People on this list need to make up their mind:  either you want your techno
stars to be famous, or you don't.  Someone will bitch about the superstars
and sellouts that Sasha and crew have become, and then complain that Juan
and Carl aren't in the same position.  You'll bitch about Oakenfold taking a
sponsorship of sony headphones, and then completely ignore that the
belleville 3 got ford focus's at a press conference last year, and juan was
quoted as saying, "if i wasn't a big guy, i'd love this car."


Plain and simple, they ARE big stars, and to pretend that they're being
oppressed is stupid as fuck.  I don't see Carl boppin around detroit in a
beat-up volvo not being able to afford to put out another cd;  last time i
checked the dude gets his nike's custom made for himself.  I don't  see
kevin saunderson living a run down house on the westside;  the dude owns
multiple houses, all of them gorgeous.  Derrick doesn't wear rags when he
goes out, the bro has a rolex and $100 dollar silk shirt.  some of you want
to pretend that these guys are doin this 100% for the music, and that
they're barely scraping by while sasha and digweed laugh in their big evil
Tower raking in the money that our poor detroit artists should be making.
the fact is, they ARE making great money, living great lives, and enjoying
themselves.  They better be.

There's no doubt she is passionate about
>what she is sayin and perhaps this emotion slipped through in her writing -
>I'm sure no harm was intended.
>
>
>on 2/3/02 12:42 AM, Odeluga, Ken at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > Hmmm. The homophobic language is much more than regretable, but how does
> > that invalidate what she's saying?
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Tom Robbins/Tom Magic Feet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Sent: Friday, March 01, 2002 1:20 PM
> >> To: Tim Maughan; laura gavoor; 313 mailing list
> >> Subject: Re: [313] The Great White Hype...was IT'S ABOUT TIME!!!
> >>
> >>
> >> Seconded! I was thinking of writing a full response to the post, some
>of
> >> which I thought was accurate and some of which I thought was way
> >> off target.
> >> Then I saw this. If you're going to casually toss language like
> >> this around,
> >> Laura, don't expect me to give a damn what you think.
> >>
> >>>> These type Brit-fad faggots
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ease off the homophobic language.
> >>>
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