Ah yes that reminds me about the other cool feature on the pdx2000s - the stop button stops records dead - no slow down at all really and there is a pot to adjust the braking speed from this to power off style slow down (there is also one for start up speed which is slightly less useful)
:-----Original Message----- :From: T.J.Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 12:37 PM :To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] :Cc: 313@hyperreal.org :Subject: Re: (313) re: best decks : :Actually, touching the platter has the same effect on :the motor as adjusting the pitch unless you are totally :jamming the platter to a near halt. If you lightly :touch the platter or just twist the spindle, the :effects are no worse than adjusting the pitch. When :you adjust the pitch, the motor slows down but the :platter still wants to spin fast. The platter's moment :of inertia puts a torque on the motor (which is :instantaneously spinning slower that the record) before :it slows down. I wouldn't worry too much about it. If :it were disastrous to the motor, Technics wouldn't have :a stop button, which brings the platter to a fast halt. : This exerts a bigger torque to the motor than rubbing :your finger against the platter for sure. : :Just imagine if you were to hold a merry-go-round by :its shaft while it were spinning and your hands were :the motor keeping it going. If you want the thing to :spin faster, you would have to start moving your hands :ffaster. In doing this, you would feel a reaction :torque on your hands from the "platter." ie, the :merry-go-round would want to spin slower until the :motor pushes it faster. When the motor pushes the :platter pushes back. When you touch the platter the :platter pushes and the motor pushes back... : : : :On Wed, 20 Nov 2002, James Bucknell wrote: : :> :> jeebers--it's bad to slow a record by dragging your :> finger against the :> platter? does the same apply to speeding the record up :> by twisting the :> spindle? :> :> i just watched what dj pierre did and tried to do the :> same. :> :> so how are you meant to slow a record on the 1200s :> without touching the :> platter? :> james :> :> :> :> > From: "seth redmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :> > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:49:45 +0000 :> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], :> 313@hyperreal.org :> > Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks :> > :> > I'm still undecided on whether the torque is better :> or worse. Although it :> > seems logical to get as much as possible, when I :> tried mixing on Vestax I :> > missed the ability to drop a record back into time :by :> dragging my finger :> > across the edge of the plate as I could with 1200s; :> although unexpectedly :> > had no trouble moving back to technics again. :> > I am pretty convinced that once I got out of this :> habit (bad for the motor :> > in any case) I wouldn't mind. The only thing I am :> sure I would miss on :> > technics is the +10 pitch control. I never had to :use :> the +50's but I've :> > often found that I was agonisingly just-out-of-range :> on the technics and had :> > to piss about subtely speeding the other record up / :> down :> > :> > it's not the first time I've heard doubts about the :> build quality, but don't :> > know anyone who's had them long enough for it to be :> an issue. their mixers :> > have always been pretty nice mind. :> > :> > -s :> > :> >> From: "Neil Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> :> >> To: "'Langsman, Marc'" :<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'seth :> redmond'" :> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org> :> >> Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks :> >> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:49:55 -0000 :> >> :> >> :> >> I got one pdx 2000 (as it was all I could afford at :> the time) and I :> >> really love it: -50% is actually really useful as :> use you can mix things :> >> at half tempo to do some weird x2s, having a :reverse :> button is also very :> >> useful and yes they seem to have quite a lot more :> torque - which may not :> >> be a good thing if you play out a lot as after :using :> vestax technics :> >> feel very light and you need to use a much gentler :> touch and yeah :> >> skipping is virtually non existent which I believe :> is due to the tonearm :> >> being designed to produce no lateral force :> perpendicular to the tonearm :> >> instead all the forces run parallel to the tonearm :> (or that's the theory :> >> anyway) :> >> Build quality wise I would say that echnics still :> have the edge insomuch :> >> as touching the deck with the needle on the record :> doesn't seem to make :> >> a noise thru the speakers whereas at high volumes :if :> you tap the vestax :> >> you can hear the tapping. :> >> :> > :> > :> :_________________________________________________________________ :> > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months :> FREE*. :> > <a :href="http://mail.peoplepc.com/jump/http://join.msn.com/?page=features/ feat :uredemail">http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail</a> :> > :> > : : :TJJ : :~in a perfect world, nothing is perfect~ :________________________________________________ :PeoplePC: It's for people. And it's just smart. :http://www.peoplepc.com
