Don't DJ here any more, but I nearly always used the outside to drag or push on 1210's, and never had motor problems with them at all. More often than not, you'd have to take the 1210's apart to get back the bezel for the on/off. The only other viable way of speeding/slowing without going against the motor is by over/under->repitching. If you try and play with the vinyl, you either end up not having an effect, or you over step the mark (that doesn't include press-pushing it, as that's working against the motor also).
I'd say that using the spindle is probably more risky than using the outside, unless you really want to throw some speed into getting it matched. Again, if you get it wrong, you can knock back the mix by more than you really need, or you find that the motor overrides your attempts, and you get further out. Only time I really used the spindle was for phasing tracks by thumbing the spindle (never grab it, as you may find that a heavily-used deck may have more give in the motor). The only thing I found with Technics was the accuracy between +/- 2 and the point at which the pitch light goes on/off. Usually over a 120bpm track you'd lose/gain quarter to half a bpm. Not sure if that's relevant anymore with newer versions (if there are any). Dscaper ---------- Aeonflux Radio - http://www.aeonflux.co.uk "A man who know's what he knows, and knows what he doesn't know, is the sign of a man who knows." > -----Original Message----- > From: James Bucknell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: 21 November 2002 16:08 > To: 313@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: (313) re: best decks > > > jeebers--it's bad to slow a record by dragging your finger against the > platter? does the same apply to speeding the record up by twisting the > spindle? > > i just watched what dj pierre did and tried to do the same. > > so how are you meant to slow a record on the 1200s without touching the > platter? > james > > > > > From: "seth redmond" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 11:49:45 +0000 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], 313@hyperreal.org > > Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks > > > > I'm still undecided on whether the torque is better or worse. > Although it > > seems logical to get as much as possible, when I tried mixing > on Vestax I > > missed the ability to drop a record back into time by dragging my finger > > across the edge of the plate as I could with 1200s; although > unexpectedly > > had no trouble moving back to technics again. > > I am pretty convinced that once I got out of this habit (bad > for the motor > > in any case) I wouldn't mind. The only thing I am sure I would miss on > > technics is the +10 pitch control. I never had to use the +50's but I've > > often found that I was agonisingly just-out-of-range on the > technics and had > > to piss about subtely speeding the other record up / down > > > > it's not the first time I've heard doubts about the build > quality, but don't > > know anyone who's had them long enough for it to be an issue. > their mixers > > have always been pretty nice mind. > > > > -s > > > >> From: "Neil Wallace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "'Langsman, Marc'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,"'seth redmond'" > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,<313@hyperreal.org> > >> Subject: RE: (313) re: best decks > >> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 10:49:55 -0000 > >> > >> > >> I got one pdx 2000 (as it was all I could afford at the time) and I > >> really love it: -50% is actually really useful as use you can > mix things > >> at half tempo to do some weird x2s, having a reverse button is > also very > >> useful and yes they seem to have quite a lot more torque - > which may not > >> be a good thing if you play out a lot as after using vestax technics > >> feel very light and you need to use a much gentler touch and yeah > >> skipping is virtually non existent which I believe is due to > the tonearm > >> being designed to produce no lateral force perpendicular to the tonearm > >> instead all the forces run parallel to the tonearm (or that's > the theory > >> anyway) > >> Build quality wise I would say that echnics still have the > edge insomuch > >> as touching the deck with the needle on the record doesn't seem to make > >> a noise thru the speakers whereas at high volumes if you tap the vestax > >> you can hear the tapping. > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. > > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail > > > > >
