Re: (313) Digital Djing

[ben thompson]

could not agree more with Benoit.
very good points. the selection process is what makes or breaks the DJ.
bad selection, kills a mood, and this is easy to do when frustrated by 
not being able to remember what tracks sound like. this happens with me 
on accasion, when using FS2.
for the very reasons Benoit has raised. saturation of music. quantity 
not quality etc...

and thanks Peter. a simple solution to the problem i have with FS2. 
i'll have a go at this filing method. and persevere with FS2 till i 
can't cope anymore..

Ben

On 3 Jan 2008, at 12:22, P.A. Keur wrote:

Hi all,

A very interesting discussion. Much had been said about it, so i`ll
try to keep it short. My "solution" to this problem is inspired on a
discussion that was held on this list before. There was a discussion
about how to sort your records. This is essentially the same
discussion. At that time someone came up with the idea of sorting your
records in chronological order.

So that is what I did when I was configuring Traktor. I made a folder
for each month. In a folder I store the tracks that are new to me in
that month. I found this the easiest way to recall the location of the
tracks. It works way better than a long list and you can still sort
them by bpm per folder. (Which is not really necessary since you can
get the tracks to play in their original key when pitched up or down.)

Just my 0.02 €cts

Peter





On Jan 3, 2008 1:06 PM, Benoît Pueyo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
Interesting points have been raised here. Actually I think cover 
artwork
is the easiest way to remind a track for a vinyl collector.

When i raised the 1000+ records in my collection, i still could (by
seeing a record artwork or listening to it) remember by heart the name
of EPs, label cat, and most of the time the titles of the highlight
tracks. This was in the early 2000s. For example, at that time the 
funny
thing i could do is associate this kindof info with almost the full
tracklisting of a Jeff Mills DJ set heard at the radio or in a party.

Now i have raised the 2000+ records, and as labels are opening and
closing so fast, most of these new records i get are from different
labels (which was not the case some years ago, when there were fewer 
and
bigger labels representing at least 3/4 of the records i bought). At
that point the memory trick is just impossible anymor,e though i still
know at least the artist name and the label of what i have.

Sorry for these long words, but I think my personnal situation shows
something more general : electronic music has completely bursted in 
term
of quantity of good labels and producers. And digital download + file
sharing makes you able to have 2000+ records in one month, while it 
took
me 10 years to buy them on vinyl. Which leads to the fact that now
people own many tracks, and got them so fast that they hardly remember
them. Then it is impossible to remind everyhting very clearly.

Thats why associating a picture with sounds eases the memory thing, 
and
that the picture/record browsing can make you think to a track you 
would
not have thought to.

The track selection process has evolved. Digital DJs have so many 
files
that they can forget to play the 'good' record, and at the same time
constrain themselves to the files they know they will work and they 
can
access easily. The 'old school' DJs has to make two selections : 
first,
what he brings in his flycase, second, what he plays in a party among
this first selection. To me, above the Djing technique, this selection
constraint was the most important thing to appreciate a DJ in a party,
and digital DJing has removed that.

Cover browsing would partly solve that problem IMO.


--
Benoît.

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Phew! (good job I'm off on holiday for 3 weeks on Friday as that's 
313ed me out).