i think we can all agree that "it's not going to be like the first
couple of DEMFs" and I really think that we should all stop bitching
about how it could be or why it is. IT'S NOT GOING BACK THAT WAY SO
GET OVER IT.

I have long given up on "wishing for the old DEMF" and I just look
forward to use it as a reason to get out to Detroit, and of course I
could always go out there whenever I want but it's just a good reason.
I like seeing Detroit in a "happy" state, it's good to see people get
together just to hang out, it's good to have a reason just to go that
weekend.

I can still go to the after parties, still catch the "older"/ "classic
detroit" artists and djs on their own small stage, and that is fine
with me. Maybe I will skip the large stages with their happy
commercial or miimalist popular crap, but if that's what gets the
festival going, then so be it.

Sure a lot of people just to come to listen to other types of
electronic music, and so be it. I'm glad people are trekking out to
Detroit, on the very least level that's a great thing because it's not
like there is a lot going for the city, and it needs trade and
commerce to flow into the city, however that may be.

Obviously, it is better to run an event where there is potential to
make $, rather than run it at a loss just to cater for us fanactic
hardcore fans, and I think that is something that I have come to
realise. Sure it sounds defeatist, sell out, whatever you call it, but
it's damn hard putting on an event and I'm happy that they have one at
all. And I'm sure they can run it better, but man, I think we all go
tto realise that it's not just about "us" on this list, but a broader
audience out there. And if it can bring in some much needed $ into
Det, then I'm all for it.

m

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 12:44 AM, JT Stewart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Yes we all come to Detroit, the birthplace of more than a few
>  distinctly American musical styles, to celebrate the music of
>  elsewhere.
>
>  Identity is important, especially in this age of omni-culture and
>  accelerating hegemony. Identity is more important in the long run than
>  being just another venue, and it's certainly of inescapable importance
>  when it comes to Detroit. Imagine a blues festival set in the
>  Mississippi Delta, the birthplace of the blues, with a line-up
>  dominated by Stevie Ray Vaughn and BB King style blues? I'm sure some
>  locals would be excited to see some "exotic" music, good for them, but
>  that sentiment is rather worthless in the face of preserving and
>  celebrating the area's preeminent culture and identity.
>
>  The festival has become a celebration of popular (dance music)
>  culture, which is an obvious move. It's understandable. It's easier.
>  It's safer. However I don't think the approach has borne out better
>  results than the old Festivals which were actual celebrations of
>  Detroit style dance music. But I'm glad they are managing the festival
>  competently, unlike previous incarnations, so that it can continue and
>  perhaps find it's own identity and mojo again.
>
>
>
>  On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 11:24 PM, Thomas D. Cox, Jr.
>  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  > On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 6:52 PM, /0 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>  >  > i'm sure it will f most of you off, but I'd rather it be this way.  
> detroit
>  >  >  pretty much caters only to itself, which means the festival is a rare 
> chance
>  >  >  to catch some of the stuff that would never get a booking or a decent
>  >  >  venue/audience otherwise.
>  >
>  >  why are you on this list again? please, move, unsub, just get away.
>  >
>  >  tom
>  >
>

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