Hollow Sir,
Let me thank you for sharing important and valuable information on railway
reservation.
may I submit the following few questions for clarification?
1. Do the orthopedically handicapped claim concision in handicapped higher
class concision?
2. Do the visually challenged claim for escort in handicapped higher class
concision?
3. Why not the advocacy groups try for three percent reservation for persons
with disabilities in railway reservations?
4. Do you suggest any source for better understanding of the railway and air
reservations for the differently abled?
Thanks in anticipation.
Janardhana Naidu.
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From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: "K .RAGHURAMAN" <thinkdontbl...@gmail.com>;
<accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:26 AM
Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in
trains
Friends
I am not at all amazed at the utter confusion prevailing about various
facilities to disabled in Indian railways.
So, following points are offered to clarify the matter:
1. Blind concession and HP quota are two different things: blind
concession is available in first and second AC. at rate of 50% and is
called handicapped higher class concession, and in third AC and sleeper
class at the rate of 75% for both self and escort on production of valid
railway concession certificate, and is called blind lower class
concession. HP quota is a quota of two berths available only in sleeper
class to the disabled persons including blind. Due to its terminology it
is arbitrarily denied to blind travelers as rightly pointed out. they
interpret the word handicapped as meaning only orthopedically disabled.
So, we should insist on uniform nomenclature. Besides, a blind person can
get concession in any class, and even berth in HP quota in sleeper class
without escort unlike orthopedically disabled.
2. The handicapped or disabled coach is an altogether different coach of
four berths attached at the extremities of wrack with a lot of lacunae, as
said.
3. However, recently, railways is further confusing the matters by
extending the scope of hp quota even to reserve those four berths in
disabled coach, whereby two undesired things result:
a. the person getting berths in hp quota may get them in regular sleeper
class or in disabled coach. and
b. the status of that disabled coach is reserved as well as ordinary,
which results in chaos.
4. All this is in addition to arbitrariness which reservation clerks and
supervisors indulge in, because any wrong issue of concession tickets is
penalized by recovering the differential amount from their salary. And all
this is again in addition to indiscriminate entry into disabled coach by
all and sundry and greed of GRP AND RPF in expelling them at the precise
moment of departure of train.
Situation is slightly better in south, I think.
Rajesh
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of K .RAGHURAMAN
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 10:45 PM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in
trains
there are also many problems in this coach for the disabled. 1 there is no
railway official to take care of the passengers travelling in this coach.
2
the coach is totally disconnected from all other compartments that is
there
is no vestibule to move from one compartment to another. 3 no connection
with the pantry car. 4 more importantly at the max only 8 passengers along
with the escorts can travel. this mail is not to harm or defame anyone but
to highlight the real condition of the coach. so please think about this
and
take these maters also to the higher officials in the railways and ask for
at least 40 seats and all other facilities like the sighted to have a
decent and comfortabble journey. regards raghu.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Asudani, Rajesh" <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in>
To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in>
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 1:56 PM
Subject: Re: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in
trains
It is very much available to VI, and is called: HP quota.
The arbitrary denial can well be countered by compelling them-railway
rank
and file-to enter the data in the system for booking and selecting hp
quota.
The system accepts it duly. However, I am afraid if they are not willing
to key in the data in system, a blind person single handedly can not
prevail upon them to do so, practically speaking and the issue should be
taken up at higher levels of the concerned station by advocacy groups and
awareness spread.
Rajesh
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From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in
[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of tirumangalam
sandeep
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 11:23 AM
To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in
Subject: [AI] information required about reservation of tickets in trains
good morning to all accessindia members
recently i went to a railway reservation counter to reserve tickets
with the railway concession form for the blind but the waiting list
was above 250 so i asked the person sitting in the counter to give me
a ticket in the disabled quota which he refused saying that visually
impaired are not given tickets in the disabled quota on asking about
the previous time that another person had given me in that quota he
refused saying "i dont know how that person gave you that time" and
shouted at me to talk the ticket in the waiting list or leave
dear AI member i wanted suggestions is the disabled quota available
for the VI persons or not
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