Exactly! This is where we need to move beyond mere Euro-American centric notion of mobility. Instead of talking about language, let's ellobrate further on some tips to use the cane effectively and it was actually asked by a few on the list. I'll put together a few tips of my own. So let's move on that direction rather than bickering each other.
Vetri. On 26/09/2011, Vamshi. G <gvamsh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Back on the subject. No further comments on English language please. > > I have some vision but very poor mobility, especially in new places. > I always wondered how visually challenged people walk alone with the > help of a white cane. But most of my doubts have been wiped off > during my recent trip to Pune. > > I had been to Pune to meet my friends. We were 5 of us with > different vision conditions. We didn't have a permanent sighted guide > but asked for the same as and when required in different places like > hotels, resorts, pubs, shopping centers, etc. We even played in a > water resort without asking for anyone’s help. There were some > moments with slight risk, but no real dangers. > > > And then came the final situation. I had my train back at 12 in the > night. Raj, my friend at Pune, who himself is visually challenged, > had to take me to the railway station from his home. We went to a > hotel, had the dinner, then to the railway station, and finally to the > right platform, all on our own, but not alone. Then I met a stranger > with whom my ticket was booked by the agent, explained my problem to > him and boarded the train with his help. > > I was surprised to see the help we were getting once we got out with > this wonderful tool in our hand. We asked a person to help us cross > the road to reach the station, he accompanied us all the way to the > station. We asked the way to the desired platform, again we had > someone taking us right to the over bridge. And as I said earlier, a > total stranger helped me board the train and even gave his lower berth > in exchange of my upper one. > > It was a real confidence booster for me. And it was only after this > trip that I understood independent mobility doesn’t mean moving alone, > it means moving without a fixed sighted guide from beginning to the > end. Now I am really motivated to use the white cane. But I believe > in professional training. So, once I undergo some training in > mobility, I will move on my own. > > > > On 9/26/11, jignesh thakur <jigneshthaku...@gmail.com> wrote: >> sir, >> I hope your understanding might good as your English. >> Expressions are more important then any language. >> He properly conveyed what he wanted. Now you should tell us whats your >> problem? >> Are you writing for only sake of insulting other? >> >> >> >> On 9/26/11, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Exactly. >>> English is nothing more than a medium of communication. >>> >>> On 26/09/2011, Mahesh Panicker <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> Away from the subject, but we've discussed this before, AI is not a >>>> platform for teaching and learning english. The important thing is to >>>> be able to convey the things, not so much about grammar and spelling. >>>> Not all on this list can be so proficient in the english language. >>>> Not intented to be rude or insulting, but thought someone has to state >>>> it. >>>> best, >>>> >>>> On 9/26/11, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Forgive me if I'm being rude, but are you an English teacher? >>>>> >>>>> On 26/09/2011, Phen Varghese <phenvargh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Dear, raj debbarman. >>>>>> >>>>>> When you type please check what you are typing. >>>>>> There are a lot of mistakes. >>>>>> Try to use MS word and spell check and copy it to your compose mail. >>>>>> >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Phen Varghese >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9/26/11, Raj Debbarma <rdbbarma...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> i strongly belief that white cane should use by everyone of us. >>>>>>> every time its not possible to walk with your companion. yes it is >>>>>>> importent to take help of sighted esistence but it is more asential >>>>>>> to cary white cane along. >>>>>>> if i tell you about me; i prefer to use white cane when i walk alone >>>>>>> specially in public places like railwaystation, road, govt offices >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> hospitals etc. >>>>>>> ya, when i go for hang out and colledge i'm always with my friends. >>>>>>> i never be alone in such places like shopping maul, movie hall, >>>>>>> discos, night clubs and restaurants etc. >>>>>>> it doesn't mean that they are not ready to come apart from these >>>>>>> places. but in my personal work i prefer to do alone for my own >>>>>>> setisfection. >>>>>>> my family and my friends are so caring , they never want to live me >>>>>>> alone at any point of time. sometimes i find so much difficultys to >>>>>>> convince them. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thank you.. >>>>>>> regards >>>>>>> raj debbarman. >>>>>>> no: >>>>>>> +919545810447 >>>>>>> email: >>>>>>> rdbbarma...@gmail.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 9/26/11, Asudani, Rajesh <rajeshasud...@rbi.org.in> wrote: >>>>>>>> Well said Vetri. >>>>>>>> Walking without cane, unescorted, is surely folly. >>>>>>>> However, using one's residual sight for mobility purposes instead of >>>>>>>> wasting >>>>>>>> it on reading and writing print as some folks do, is also a sound >>>>>>>> idea >>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>> have given to a few who have made a good use of it. >>>>>>>> But, for totally blind, apart from white cane, can echolocation be >>>>>>>> taught >>>>>>>> and practiced as a supplemental mobility aid, as some folks in US >>>>>>>> claim >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> do? >>>>>>>> Are they exceptions, or it can be cultivated as a technique? >>>>>>>> Would have been interesting to grapple with all these issues >>>>>>>> practically >>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>> AI convention, which I would regretfully miss. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Anyway, I don't push away sometimes even unrequired mobility >>>>>>>> assistance >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>> sighted, for who knows, lest they be repelled from assisting >>>>>>>> anybody. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Adhimoolam >>>>>>>> Vetrivel Murugan >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 11:56 AM >>>>>>>> To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But if you are looking for tips without white cane, then I am afraid >>>>>>>> that you are out of luck. Especially for someone with little or no >>>>>>>> vision, nothing can supstitute mobility aids like cane. If you are >>>>>>>> looking for tips with white cane, then that's a reasonable >>>>>>>> expectation >>>>>>>> and fokes here can provide tips to minimise the reliability on >>>>>>>> escorts. I would also like to bring another misconception to the >>>>>>>> forefront. Some fokes even among visually challenged consider >>>>>>>> someone >>>>>>>> walking around without cane being smart. I can say that there's >>>>>>>> nothing smart about it and it's actually stupid and such attitudes >>>>>>>> put >>>>>>>> himself or herself in danger. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vetri. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24/09/2011, Renuka Warriar <eren...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Sorry, in spite of all the views expressed in this thread, I could >>>>>>>>> not find any tips to manage without escort, except using the white >>>>>>>>> cane, and that too is not well explained. >>>>>>>>> Renuka. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 9/24/11, jignesh thakur <jigneshthaku...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Friends, >>>>>>>>>> First of all, I respect each views, and expect the same from all. >>>>>>>>>> Somebody rightly said that this topic is more important then >>>>>>>>>> screen >>>>>>>>>> readers. >>>>>>>>>> What is social dignity? If I am given 2 choices of so called >>>>>>>>>> social >>>>>>>>>> dignity, and my independence, I would like to choose the second >>>>>>>>>> one. >>>>>>>>>> Though I am not good enough as far as mobility is concern yet for >>>>>>>>>> me >>>>>>>>>> personal satisfaction matters most. >>>>>>>>>> Of course while you go with white can people will ask ridicules >>>>>>>>>> questions, but I think it would happened more or less if you would >>>>>>>>>> go >>>>>>>>>> with sighted escort. And one can reduce risk factor by developing >>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>> mobility. >>>>>>>>>> I have seen many visually impaired people who manage very well >>>>>>>>>> without >>>>>>>>>> sighted escort. >>>>>>>>>> Above all, self satisfaction is really important. >>>>>>>>>> Though it's tough to manage without escort but with confidence it >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> possible. >>>>>>>>>> I don't want to say that we should not use escort, its necessary >>>>>>>>>> sometime to have sighted person with you. But we should honestly >>>>>>>>>> try >>>>>>>>>> to reduce sighted assistance as much as possible. >>>>>>>>>> let me thanks rajesh sir for this topic on the list. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/11, Rahul Bajaj <rahul.bajaj10...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> First of all, I'm glad to see this thread. >>>>>>>>>>> I think that this matters more than all other screen readers, >>>>>>>>>>> assistive devices and all such other things. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Even I fail to comprehend how totally blind people are able to >>>>>>>>>>> move >>>>>>>>>>> on their own. >>>>>>>>>>> I have always taken the help of sighted guides for moving around. >>>>>>>>>>> Many people also feel that those who require sighted assistance >>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>> more dependent on others than those who use white canes are. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I personally feel that it's better to take the help of a sighted >>>>>>>>>>> guide >>>>>>>>>>> instead of fumbling around just to prove that you are not >>>>>>>>>>> dependent >>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>> others. >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, there are people who are truly independent and do not >>>>>>>>>>> require much sighted assistance, but, like I said earlier, I >>>>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>>>> don't know how they actually manage it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I feel that people, in general, have a very negative attitude >>>>>>>>>>> towards >>>>>>>>>>> those who use white canes. >>>>>>>>>>> I'm not saying that they hate blind people, but there is a >>>>>>>>>>> drastic >>>>>>>>>>> change in their behavior. >>>>>>>>>>> They start interfering unnecessarily in order to assist you, or >>>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>>> start asking ridiculous questions. >>>>>>>>>>> All this also happens if you move around with a sighted guide, >>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>> believe that it happens more if you use a white cane. >>>>>>>>>>> Of course, this method also has its flaws, but what other option >>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>> have? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 23/09/2011, Mahesh Panicker <maheshspanic...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> The over emphasis placed on independent living is the result of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> disability rights movement, in its social model version, simply >>>>>>>>>>>> accepting the liberal-modern notion of the individual as >>>>>>>>>>>> rational, >>>>>>>>>>>> free and independent. >>>>>>>>>>>> We need to may be think further in lines of human >>>>>>>>>>>> interdependence >>>>>>>>>>>> rather than any utopian notion of independent living, its a >>>>>>>>>>>> myth, >>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> only for the disabled, but also for the non-disabled. >>>>>>>>>>>> When faced with a disadvantageous and dangerous environment, I >>>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>>> rather prefer an escort, than getting injured. >>>>>>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/11, Anirban Mukherjee <sparsha.anir...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> i entirely agree with what Himanshu sir has said. i work in a >>>>>>>>>>>>> rural >>>>>>>>>>>>> area in pashchimbanga and day in and day out have to encounter >>>>>>>>>>>>> difficulties like coliding with someone or with some object >>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>> really hurt due particularly to the irresponsibility of some >>>>>>>>>>>>> persons >>>>>>>>>>>>> without visual impairment. the rail station where i usually >>>>>>>>>>>>> board >>>>>>>>>>>>> my >>>>>>>>>>>>> train from becomes almost inaccessible in the evenings because >>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> abundance of small shops where things of use are sold. there >>>>>>>>>>>>> were >>>>>>>>>>>>> times when i nearly fell to the railway tracks. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> moreover many people don't know how to use a pavement. >>>>>>>>>>>>> pavements >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> larger cities here are dangerous to say the least for even a >>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted >>>>>>>>>>>>> person; for a visually challanged person it is almost a >>>>>>>>>>>>> nightmare. >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> rural roads, there are no pavement or anything. so escort >>>>>>>>>>>>> becomes >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> necessity. but undoubtedly, moving alone is the most satisfying >>>>>>>>>>>>> thing >>>>>>>>>>>>> irrespective of fumbling or no fumbling. but there is no >>>>>>>>>>>>> heroism >>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>> falling down and injuring oneself. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> we can enough philosophise regarding independence. but under >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> present circumstance it is an illusive thing for us. hope one >>>>>>>>>>>>> day >>>>>>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>>>>>> come when this topic itself will become redundant. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> with thanks and regards, Anirban Mukherjee. >>>>>>>>>>>>> cell: 09433305139 >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/23/11, BHAWANI SHANKAR VERMA <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> if a word hold is objectionable, the word grip can be replace >>>>>>>>>>>>>> withit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Raj Debbarma" <rdbbarma...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 8:58 AM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AI] Tips to manage without escort? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi sir, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i agree with all your point. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i don't find anything wrong to use cane specially in new >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> surrounding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and also belief nothing wrong to ask direction to find our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> terms of holding hand, what i think there might be cultural >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differences reguarding this. but if you are caring cane its >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automatically represent your blindness twards the society >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of time if anyone hold your hand, i don't think anybody >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any sort of problem. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its raj, have a nice day ahead to all of you. cheers >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thank you.. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/11, Adhimoolam Vetrivel Murugan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <vadhimoo...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is an interesting subject and here are my views: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, It does not matter whether we fumble around to find >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ways >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. What matters is our ability to reach our destination on >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without hurting our-self. In relation to that, who cares >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thinking when we fumble around to find our ways? Ones we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adopt >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mentality, then words like social dignity will make very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> little >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sense. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, I would like to draw the attention to the point that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made. There is a significant cultural difference in terms of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> someone else's hand. I am sure that visually challenged >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> India will agree with the fact that we don't mind holding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only in terms of sighted assistance, but also among friends >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> visually challenged. but among the blind people here in the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> US >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a slight difference in terms of holding hands as if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> holding >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hands is undesirable or something like that. So one has to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aware >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> such cultural differences in this regard. My final point is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> do >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mobility during conference. As Jean pointed out, we should >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> certainly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> make use of the cane since it will be a new surrounding, but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same time there is nothing wrong in asking for directions. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Just >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> passing comment about my attitude towards others assistance: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Either >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guide me by holding my hands or leave me alone. I am >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> intelegent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enough >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to find my ways around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Vetri. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 22/09/2011, Anirban Mukherjee <sparsha.anir...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually, escort becomes necessity at some times as far as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i'm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concerned. but, i agree, that we must look for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> self-reliance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i would like to draw every body's attention is that the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> point >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mr >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajesh sir made regarding escort in the other thread is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valid. it is insulting to say the least. there should be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> discretion >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> making my own choices for me. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/22/11, mahendra <gal...@chello.at> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Rajesh >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i only agree with your thurd point, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to think that escort is there, and we don't need mobility >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrong. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted people can also put your life in to denjare, we >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> must >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> take >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responsibility >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for our life, and not totaly put responsibility on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shoulders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> others. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> secondly because of dependence on sighted, social dignity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> compromised, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and not because you have to fumble around, it shows you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> trying >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> At 09:21 AM 9/22/2011, you wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Dear Srinivasu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rightly said that low vision people don't face as much >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> problems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>mobility as totally blind do. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>It is not impossible to manage without escort, I have done >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>myself, travelling on Nagpur Roads in student days, and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>travelling all alone in trains in UP, bringing my elder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sister >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>is herself blind with her kids from Lucknow to Nagpur, all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>My point is, without escort, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>1. The mobility is fraught with inherent risks, sometimes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>2. More often than not, social dignity is compromised, as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>to fumble around. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>3. Your freedom, particularly in new surroundings, is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> greatly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>curtailed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>As a result, one should opt for an escort, if one is able >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> afford, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>and escort is available, except in situations where >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> privacy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>utmost importance. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-----Original Message----- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>From: accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>[mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Of >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Srinivasu Chakravarthula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 1:25 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To: accessindia@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Subject: [AI] Tips to manage without escort? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi All, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Honestly, I got this curiosity with recent thread raised >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rajesh. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>I know, there area lot of members in the group, who widely >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> travel >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>them traveling all alone. I even see people like Jean, who >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ask >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>help at the venues. I am curious how would people with >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> total >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> blindness >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>manage to be alone at conferences etc.Also, any of you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> come >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> across >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tips >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>network with the people in the events.I don't consider >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> answer >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>of the above, although I travel a lot, but I could fairly >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>don't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>think, this would be of any problem to people with low >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vision. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Any tips would also help me to share with our students at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NAB. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Thanks a lot, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-Srinivasu >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>-- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Srinivasu Chakravarthula >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Mobile: +91 990 081 0881 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Website: http://www.srinivasu.org | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.learnaccessibility.org >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Follow me on Twitter: http://twitter.com/VasuTweets >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Register for AccessIndia convention 2011(November 12-13) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.accessindia.org.in/harish/convention.htm >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>To change your subscription to digest mode or make any >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> other >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>changes, please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Notice: This email and any files transmitted with it are >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>confidential and intended solely for the use of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> individual >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>entity to whom they are addressed. 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