Well, if a blind person doesn't know braille, then he/she should make efforts to learn it. The schemes can be launched only for literate ones, not for unlettered.
On 7/10/14, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: > Lets start with the fact that "Braille is important even today"-there is no > dispute or difference on this statement amongst us. > Now lets see the issues in perspective- > 1. We have a problem with texts not reaching the students in time for the > academic year.So the government has budgeted for improvement of old braille > presses and setting up new ones. Great laudable initiative. > a. Has anyone amongst us spoken about the quality of reading by our so > called braille teachers? Unless we demand quality education from both > inclusive and special schools we are not going to go further. The basics of > education for a blind child is braille and I am sorry to see the condition > of braille reading in this country. For this we can blame our teachers and > for the bad quality of teachers we can blame the NGOs to some extent, who > train and certify such teachers. Who is going to bell this cat? > > The problem of material may soon get over because of this budget but then > who is going to use this material and who is going to decipher it for our > young ones? > > b. I cannot comment on the financial issues of running a braille press > because I have never gone into that area with any NGO. there are many who > can comment on this issue. > c. The quality of material churned out by these Braille presses- I cannot > comment from my own knowledge but I am told by many people who use these > presses that the quality is not so good now because the proof reading is not > good enough. > d. The issue of distribution, merging with technology and widening the reach > of these presses others who deal with these matters can fill us in with. > > 2. Notes with Braille marking-great initiative on paper > This has been in the pipeline for quite a while. > a. The possibility of actually being able to distinguish marks whether > braille or raised numbers or some tactile indicators depends upon the paper > used and on how we use the notes.Therefore I think it is a great initiative > but may not result in much. RBI is going to come out with Rs. 10 notes in > plastic-maybe that can be a test case for the tactile markings. > b. The number of persons with congenitle blindness is reducing because of > better nutrition, eradication of smallpox etc. The number of late blind is > increasing for various reasons including the fact that people are living > longer and may get age related diseases so the kinds of users is changing. > This does not take away from the fact that braille is important but > acceptance of universal design is important too. > > We must also focus on the other 3 items mentioned in the budget-all these > have been on the anvil for a while. > > Also we have to look at all the initiatives on e-tendering, egovernance, > eclearances and a host of internet related matters that have been mentioned > in the budget and outside it in the last 1 month. > > Kanchan Pamnani > Advocate & Solicitor > 9, Suleman Chambers, > Battery Street, Colaba, > Mumbai - 400 039. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Preeti Monga" <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> > To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues > concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:41 PM > Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 > > >> There is no one answer to your question dear! I never said that blind >> people should not learn Braille! I only said that if there are blind >> people who have never had the opportunity of learning to read and write >> due to various reasons, as you maybe aware that not all blind are >> fortunate enough to be able to learn to read and write? And of course the >> ones who don't know Braille and are educated, they can learn the same. It >> will be very useful I think. So I hope I have made my question clear? >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga >> Director >> >> >> >> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >> Landline: 011 22781446 >> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in >> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. >> Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - >> >> Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including >> demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive >> Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >> >> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:21 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >> >> if reading and writing with the pen and pencil is necessary for the >> sighted >> person then why not braille should be larnt by blind people? >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Preeti Monga >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:19 PM >> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled.' >> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >> >> You are absolutely right Kanchan! And what happens to those who can not >> read >> or write? Or to those who can read and write, but not in Braille? >> Preeti >> >> Preeti Monga >> Director >> >> >> >> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >> Landline: 011 22781446 >> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in >> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - >> Corporate >> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >> >> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >> Behalf >> Of Kanchan Pamnani >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:15 PM >> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issuesconcerning >> the disabled. >> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >> >> >> This is another issue we will have to debate. >> the braille markings that we have seen as prototypes are not really >> distinguishable. Therefore this may be great for sentimental reasons but >> not >> >> good practically. >> There were many of us who tested these markings in 2009 and 2010 and none >> of >> >> us found it useful. >> Please also remember the scenario in India when notes are folded into many >> small portions and then these folded notes are saved in bras and in many >> unmentionable places. Also dont forget the sweat etc. these all make >> reading >> >> of braille difficult. >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:06 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] BUDGET 2014 >> >> >>> Nothing is accessible when money is inaccessible.... >>> >>> Jaitely hope your government acts swiftly... >>> And Louis Braille you long live.. >>> On 7/10/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>>> I meant daisy along with production of Braille. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>> >>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:56, Avichal Bhatnagar <coolavic...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Kudos to modi government for bringing a disabled friendly budget! >>>>> DAISY is no doubt a good way of accessing books, however it can never >>>>> replace braille. and hence we should focus on making more braille >>>>> material available. >>>>> >>>>>> On 7/10/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>>>>> Also propose to modernise existing Braille presses and introducing >>>>>> Braille >>>>>> on currency notes. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think we should follow -up with respective departments and make this >>>>>> happen. >>>>>> >>>>>> Another note, as part of modernisation why not to ask them to adopt >>>>>> DAISY? >>>>>> Dipendra , Sam - comments? >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:29, "bhawani shankar verma" >>>>>>> <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear list, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> it is proposed to establish 15 new braille presses in this budget. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> bhawani shankar verma punjab national bank durg, chhattisgarh >>>>>>> Ph:9827157594 office:07882332562/2323097 skype : bsvermadurg >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>> >> http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >> ia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other changes, >>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>> >> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>> 1. 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