so many thanks for your valuable suggestion about braille i want to say one thing only maximume sighted people are comming to this field only for earning in the name of service to the vi people.
On 7/11/14, Preeti Monga <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> wrote: > Yes, Avinash, you have pointed out true and very important points. I do > hope > things get going here in our country! > Preeti > > Preeti Monga > Director > > > > Mobile: +91 9871701646 > Landline: 011 22781446 > E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in > Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org > Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training > –Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting – Corporate > ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying > workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and > Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. > > We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete > customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On Behalf > Of avinash shahi > Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 8:39 PM > To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues concerning > the disabled. > Subject: Re: [AI] braille BUDGET 2014 > > Dear Mam > > You've put in so much efforts in putting things in 'perspective',thank you. > > Let me put things straight > > One: Computers are privileged commodities which can't be afford by 90% > parents who have blind kids (see World Bank Report on India, 2007). > Then Braille becomes emancipating and empowering tool for blind kids > who are not in Delhi or Mumbai. > > two: I wonder why cost benefit analyses should be the responsibility > of us, its the constitutional responsibility of the state. Isn't our > Disability Act 1995 enjoins government to do so? If books are not > supplied on time by government-owned presses, Can't so called > disability activists organize sit-ins on the roads? bottomline: > meetings and negotiations in AC rooms can not cure emergency > situation. > > 3: practically writing, 'Inclusive education' is attractive 'buzzword' > which masque the real discrimination and humiliation disabled children > face in such schools which robs them of their childhood then > adulthood. West-imported concept replicated in India is neither > suited nor workable particularly in rural areas. . such schools cater > to the needs of few selective fortunate boys/girls who are privileged > enough to manage things on their own cost. > > > four: 'Universal Design' again sounds wonderful, there is no mechanism > how to operationalize it. How can I get to know bus-number? how to > read which medicine my friend has given me to swallow? and yes how to > identify notes? only trust holds the key. Blindness imposes certain > limitation and State is obligated to provide greater resources to us. > I think there should be syntheses between both Braille and latest > technology. And government should work expeditiously to meet the needs > of its neglected subjects, Note: majority of blind people are not > citizens. > > On 7/10/14, Kanchan Pamnani <kanchanpamn...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Lets start with the fact that "Braille is important even today"-there is > no >> dispute or difference on this statement amongst us. >> Now lets see the issues in perspective- >> 1. We have a problem with texts not reaching the students in time for the >> academic year.So the government has budgeted for improvement of old > braille >> presses and setting up new ones. Great laudable initiative. >> a. Has anyone amongst us spoken about the quality of reading by our so >> called braille teachers? Unless we demand quality education from both >> inclusive and special schools we are not going to go further. The basics > of >> education for a blind child is braille and I am sorry to see the >> condition >> of braille reading in this country. For this we can blame our teachers >> and >> for the bad quality of teachers we can blame the NGOs to some extent, who >> train and certify such teachers. Who is going to bell this cat? >> >> The problem of material may soon get over because of this budget but then >> who is going to use this material and who is going to decipher it for our >> young ones? >> >> b. I cannot comment on the financial issues of running a braille press >> because I have never gone into that area with any NGO. there are many who >> can comment on this issue. >> c. The quality of material churned out by these Braille presses- I cannot >> comment from my own knowledge but I am told by many people who use these >> presses that the quality is not so good now because the proof reading is > not >> good enough. >> d. The issue of distribution, merging with technology and widening the > reach >> of these presses others who deal with these matters can fill us in with. >> >> 2. Notes with Braille marking-great initiative on paper >> This has been in the pipeline for quite a while. >> a. The possibility of actually being able to distinguish marks whether >> braille or raised numbers or some tactile indicators depends upon the > paper >> used and on how we use the notes.Therefore I think it is a great > initiative >> but may not result in much. RBI is going to come out with Rs. 10 notes >> in >> plastic-maybe that can be a test case for the tactile markings. >> b. The number of persons with congenitle blindness is reducing because of >> better nutrition, eradication of smallpox etc. The number of late blind >> is >> increasing for various reasons including the fact that people are living >> longer and may get age related diseases so the kinds of users is >> changing. >> This does not take away from the fact that braille is important but >> acceptance of universal design is important too. >> >> We must also focus on the other 3 items mentioned in the budget-all these >> have been on the anvil for a while. >> >> Also we have to look at all the initiatives on e-tendering, egovernance, >> eclearances and a host of internet related matters that have been > mentioned >> in the budget and outside it in the last 1 month. >> >> Kanchan Pamnani >> Advocate & Solicitor >> 9, Suleman Chambers, >> Battery Street, Colaba, >> Mumbai - 400 039. >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Preeti Monga" <preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in> >> To: "'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >> concerningthe disabled.'" <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:41 PM >> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >> >> >>> There is no one answer to your question dear! I never said that blind >>> people should not learn Braille! I only said that if there are blind >>> people who have never had the opportunity of learning to read and write >>> due to various reasons, as you maybe aware that not all blind are >>> fortunate enough to be able to learn to read and write? And of course >>> the >>> ones who don't know Braille and are educated, they can learn the same. >>> It >>> will be very useful I think. So I hope I have made my question clear? >>> Preeti >>> >>> Preeti Monga >>> Director >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in >>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. >>> Training -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting > - >>> >>> Corporate ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including >>> demystifying workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive >>> Travel and Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>> >>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf Of bhawani shankar verma >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 4:21 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>> issuesconcerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>> >>> if reading and writing with the pen and pencil is necessary for the >>> sighted >>> person then why not braille should be larnt by blind people? >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Preeti Monga >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:19 PM >>> To: 'AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerningthe disabled.' >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>> >>> You are absolutely right Kanchan! And what happens to those who can not >>> read >>> or write? Or to those who can read and write, but not in Braille? >>> Preeti >>> >>> Preeti Monga >>> Director >>> >>> >>> >>> Mobile: +91 9871701646 >>> Landline: 011 22781446 >>> E-mail: preeti.mo...@silver-linings.co.in >>> Website: www.silver-linings.co.in ; www.silver-linings.org >>> Our Services: Executive Search - Specializing in Head Hunting. Training >>> -Motivation; Stress Management; Soft Skill; Behavioral. Gifting - >>> Corporate >>> ; Promotional; Events. End to end CSR Advisory; including demystifying >>> workshops and counseling. Printing Solutions, Incentive Travel and >>> Marketing Data Mining / Refining.. >>> >>> We assure high quality service marked with excellence and complete >>> customer centricity, forming Synergies as we go along. >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: AccessIndia [mailto:accessindia-boun...@accessindia.org.in] On >>> Behalf >>> Of Kanchan Pamnani >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 3:15 PM >>> To: AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and >>> issuesconcerning >>> the disabled. >>> Subject: Re: [AI] Notes BUDGET 2014 >>> >>> >>> This is another issue we will have to debate. >>> the braille markings that we have seen as prototypes are not really >>> distinguishable. Therefore this may be great for sentimental reasons but >>> not >>> >>> good practically. >>> There were many of us who tested these markings in 2009 and 2010 and >>> none >>> of >>> >>> us found it useful. >>> Please also remember the scenario in India when notes are folded into > many >>> small portions and then these folded notes are saved in bras and in >>> many >>> unmentionable places. Also dont forget the sweat etc. these all make >>> reading >>> >>> of braille difficult. >>> >>> Kanchan Pamnani >>> Advocate & Solicitor >>> 9, Suleman Chambers, >>> Battery Street, Colaba, >>> Mumbai - 400 039. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "avinash shahi" <shahi88avin...@gmail.com> >>> To: "AccessIndia: a list for discussing accessibility and issues >>> concerningthe disabled." <accessindia@accessindia.org.in> >>> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:06 PM >>> Subject: Re: [AI] BUDGET 2014 >>> >>> >>>> Nothing is accessible when money is inaccessible.... >>>> >>>> Jaitely hope your government acts swiftly... >>>> And Louis Braille you long live.. >>>> On 7/10/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>>>> I meant daisy along with production of Braille. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>> >>>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:56, Avichal Bhatnagar <coolavic...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Kudos to modi government for bringing a disabled friendly budget! >>>>>> DAISY is no doubt a good way of accessing books, however it can never >>>>>> replace braille. and hence we should focus on making more braille >>>>>> material available. >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 7/10/14, li...@srinivasu.org <li...@srinivasu.org> wrote: >>>>>>> Also propose to modernise existing Braille presses and introducing >>>>>>> Braille >>>>>>> on currency notes. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think we should follow -up with respective departments and make > this >>>>>>> happen. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another note, as part of modernisation why not to ask them to adopt >>>>>>> DAISY? >>>>>>> Dipendra , Sam - comments? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Srinivasu Chakravarthula | PayPal | @csrinivasu >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 5C >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 10-Jul-2014, at 11:29, "bhawani shankar verma" >>>>>>>> <bsvermad...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear list, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> it is proposed to establish 15 new braille presses in this budget. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> bhawani shankar verma punjab national bank durg, chhattisgarh >>>>>>>> Ph:9827157594 office:07882332562/2323097 skype : bsvermadurg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Register at the dedicated AccessIndia list for discussing >>>>>>>> accessibility >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> mobile phones / Tabs on: >>>>>>>> >>> > http://mail.accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/mobile.accessindia_accessind >>> ia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Search for old postings at: >>>>>>>> http://www.mail-archive.com/accessindia@accessindia.org.in/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe send a message to >>>>>>>> accessindia-requ...@accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> with the subject unsubscribe. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To change your subscription to digest mode or make any other > changes, >>>>>>>> please visit the list home page at >>>>>>>> >>> http://accessindia.org.in/mailman/listinfo/accessindia_accessindia.org.in >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Disclaimer: >>>>>>>> 1. 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