Steve,
Our system has several heavy lifter processes that run on another 4D client 
that manages, processes, and administers the info coming from the web.  This is 
the main reason we're invested in 4D.

MV

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Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2011 2:49 PM
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Subject: Re: [Active4d-dev] 64-bit version


On Jun 22, 2011, at 12:24 PM, Mike Vogt wrote:

> This will make us have to move away from 4D if we can't take advantage of 64 
> bit OSes.

Unless you are heavily invested in the 4D GUI (doing stuff you can't do with a 
web process), why would you want to use 4D as a web server in the first place?

RoR, PHP, Python and others are all free. Postgresql is free and will run rings 
around 4D. If you really need the GUI, Real Basic had a pretty good interface 
to Postgresql. I think it still exists and is cross platform.

If you do have a bunch of 4D GUI stuff, I can understand, but I have not found 
many processes I could not do with Active4D. That means I could do them in any 
of the other environments.  About the only things that didn't work well with 
Active4D  was long running processes. Not a real problem in Rail and other 
environments - just a background process.

Now I loved Active4D, when we were stuck with 4D, but I once asked Aparajita if 
it would be possible to write an ActiveRecord interface for 4D using 4D open or 
something (to be able to use RoR). His comment was "Why would you want to do 
that?" with basically the same options as my second paragraph.

Remember, this is not 1984!

Steve Alex



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