> On 21 Oct 2015, at 4:48 PM, Sander Steffann <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>> Op 20 okt. 2015, om 23:57 heeft Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN 
>> <[email protected]> het volgende geschreven:
>> 
>> On Tue, Oct 20, 2015, at 20:00, Randy Bush wrote:
>>> what is it that people do not understand about "gone, no more, we're
>>> out, ...?"
>> 
>> Because it's NOT. Not yet. Not in RIPE-land, not in APNIC-land, not even
>> in LACNIC-land. Not to mention AfriNIC-land.
> 
> The current policy is "we reserved some address space so that new entrants 
> are not blocked from the market". I have seen many people interpret that as 
> "we have not yet run out". For all practical purposes we *have* run out. What 
> we have left is not normal address distribution anymore but a "special" 
> situation. Business-as-usual with IPv4 doesn't exist anymore. To be blunt I 
> think that "we haven't run out" is a extremely misguided (a.k.a. delusional) 
> viewpoint...

+1
> 
> The point of this policy proposal is to see whether we can optimise this 
> special situation by changing some of the parameters. To discuss if the 
> results of changing i.e. "one /22" to "one /22 every 18 months" would help 
> people while still providing an acceptable timeframe for being able to give 
> addresses to new entrants.

How much of difference it will make for new entrants with this additional /22, 
and how much of potential impact by running out faster than we currently is 
will impact even future new entrants, I guess that are questions we really need 
to think about an answer.
> 
> But please realise that the normal IPv4 pool has run out and we are only 
> discussing the usage of a reservation we made for special circumstances.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sander
> 
> 

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