On Wed, 2008-02-13 at 09:34 -0800, Aaron Houston wrote:
> Hi...I am new to the list... but I can add that for the University
> Java User Groups;
Well, OpenSolaris User Groups are not Java User Groups (for one thing:-)
My take on it would be to let user groups form as easily as possible -
if there's sufficient interest in the user group, you shouldn't need
faculty supervisors.
I'd be delighted that students were interested in forming a user group
at all rather, than insist they go and talk to "The Man" to get one
setup. [ which might be a bridge too far, if the faculty had some sort
of policy against teaching UNIX ]
Worst case, a user group goes dormant when the current leader graduates
- whenever a new student comes along who's interested in reviving the
group, they can just go ahead and do that.
Why are we making this harder than it needs to be ?
cheers,
tim
> it is essential that you have a faculty advisor and one who is
> motivated in order to maintain the continuity... Students come/go, get
> their degrees, then hopefully get a job. Faculty tend to stick
> around.
>
> ***Sidebar****
> A good example of this is the University JUG at the University of the
> Philippines, where they have (2) faculty reps... and 35k students (btw
> the faculty mbrs are Java Champions);
>
> Sun, Univ. of Phil and these (2) Champions developed an open-source
> Java curriculum (JEDI) that replaced the proprietary Microsoft
> curriculum several years ago....they are now developing a open
> curriculum for Solaris. Over the Summer Solaris Evangelist Peter
> Karlsson visited the campus in Manila and met with these faculty
> advisors to help start-up the content for a Solaris program...it's a
> neat program.
>
> Thanks :-)
>
> Aaron Houston
> Sun Technology Outreach
>
> Joseph George wrote:
> > If it is a University UG, should we insist on some kind basic
> > continuity plan - for eg: A faculty advisor who will be a member?
> >
> > Or, would that be discrimination?
> >
> > ~Joe
> >
> > On 13-Feb-08, at 7:15 PM, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Mads Toftum wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Wed, Feb 13, 2008 at 09:04:11PM +0900, Jim Grisanzio wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > (1) Core Contributor -- Nominated by a Core Contributor, three +1
> > > > > votes,
> > > > > no -1 votes, duration within five days, only CCs can vote.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > I can't really see much harm in letting Contributors nominate as
> > > > well as
> > > > long as you keep the 3 Core Contributor votes requirement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > (2) Contributor -- Self nominated or nominated by a Contributor
> > > > > or Core
> > > > > Contributor, no -1 votes, no minimum or maximum +1 votes, duration
> > > > > within five days, only CCs can vote.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > This seems a bit odd to me. Effectively you can nominate yourself and
> > > > slip under the radar if nobody hates you enough to vote no?
> > > >
> > > Well, if you put it that way ... :)
> > >
> > >
> > > > I think it
> > > > would be more "balanced" if you changed this to mirror the
> > > > procedure in
> > > > (1) and just extended it to accept nominations/votes from
> > > > Contributors.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Ok, that's a good suggestion to open it up a bit.
> > >
> > >
> > > > > (3) Project and/or User Group -- Proposal based on the new format
> > > > > below,
> > > > > one +1 vote, no -1 votes, duration within five days, only CCs can
> > > > > vote.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > This one looks fine - getting many people to vote for user groups in
> > > > places they've never heard of is probably too big of a requirement.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > I'm much less concerned about the Contributor and Core Contributor
> > > voting, but we do need to make getting UGs easier and faster. So,
> > > cool...
> > >
> > > Jim
> > >
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> > > Jim Grisanzio http://blogs.sun.com/jimgris
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