Agreed.

EdgePoint does 48v only but has the outdoor part.
Netonix does 24v and 48v but doesn't have any outdoor capability
(enclosures would have to be ridiculous for the 12 port+)
Mikrotik only has 4 ports and 24v only.


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On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point.
>
> What I'd like, is a box that I can connect a power supply to (whether
> that's 48v, or 24v, I don't care) that gives my a 48v and a 24v output, and
> has another connection for batteries and it deals with feeding the
> batteries the correct voltages and current. Whether that's 12v, 24v or 48v
> batteries, I don't really care... although I'd prefer 12v or 24v so can use
> a smaller number of bigger batteries, if I want to.
>
> Ideally, Forrest would build this, so I could just plug it into the
> SiteMonitors that are already there, and be able to monitor and control it
> as well.
>
> Of course I can buy all the parts separately to do the same thing, but
> having a pre-built box to do the job would be a lot cleaner.
>
> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman <
> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>
>> It was 48v
>> Then it was mostly 24v
>> Now it's going 48v
>> Just give it a little bit, it'll go back to 24v.
>>
>> I'd rather get a power supply doing 26v to fix my problem in 2 minutes
>> than start changing things to 48v which would blow so much stuff up (epmp
>> non gps, ubnt M gear, half the Mikrotiks)
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Suite 1337
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Troy, OH 45373
>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> No, there's not really a good reason, it just means you have an extra
>>> part to deal with.
>>>
>>> We still use UBNT for our 2.4ghz stuff, but those are the only radios
>>> that won't run off 48v on most of our new sites, so I've done some that are
>>> 48v only and just use those things on the radios that need them. But if you
>>> have more than 1 or 2 things that need 24v, it's generally more practical
>>> to just use a bigger voltage converter and run multiple radios off it.
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:57 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yep, that was what I was thinking.
>>>> So, looks to me like there is no reason not to do 48 volts.
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:56 AM
>>>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>>>> *Cc:* Dave ; AFMUG
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz
>>>>
>>>> You mean like this?
>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/
>>>>
>>>> Or do you have something better in mind?
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Me too...
>>>>> So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would
>>>>> convert 48 to 24?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM
>>>>> *To:* Dave
>>>>> *Cc:* AFMUG
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz
>>>>>
>>>>> ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all...
>>>>>
>>>>> Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take
>>>>> 48v. Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle 48v
>>>>> (including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have to
>>>>> use 24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on in
>>>>> line with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than one
>>>>> or two, and it's an extra part to fail.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> They make dental floss for that  :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Josh Luthman
>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+%0D%0A++++++Wayne+St+Suite+%0D%0A++++++1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V.  :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman <
>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs.  The 5
>>>>>>>> GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low.  Both ports 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> getting 23 volts and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers (5 ghz)
>>>>>>>> and the other doesn't.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman
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>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
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>>>>>>>> Suite 1337
>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g>
>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373
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