In a perfect world it would all be 100% 48v (or hell even 100% 24v) but the only rule of standards is that there are no standards.
See XKCD 927 - https://xkcd.com/927/ Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:10 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > Nice to see the smaller players learning how to put on their big boy pants > and join the ranks of carrier grade vendors. > > *From:* Mathew Howard > *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 12:08 PM > *To:* Josh Luthman > *Cc:* Chuck McCown ; AFMUG > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz > > Well, MikroTik does have 48v now (the hEX PoE/PowerBox Pro will take up to > 57 volts), but it's only one or the other, it doesn't do any voltage > conversion. But what I've been doing at some sites is something like using > one PowerBox Pro to feed all the 24v only gear, and a second one to feed > the 48v gear. > > On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:02 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > > wrote: > >> Agreed. >> >> EdgePoint does 48v only but has the outdoor part. >> Netonix does 24v and 48v but doesn't have any outdoor capability >> (enclosures would have to be ridiculous for the 12 port+) >> Mikrotik only has 4 ports and 24v only. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Suite 1337 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >> Troy, OH 45373 >> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 2:01 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Yeah, that's the easiest compromise at this point. >>> >>> What I'd like, is a box that I can connect a power supply to (whether >>> that's 48v, or 24v, I don't care) that gives my a 48v and a 24v output, and >>> has another connection for batteries and it deals with feeding the >>> batteries the correct voltages and current. Whether that's 12v, 24v or 48v >>> batteries, I don't really care... although I'd prefer 12v or 24v so can use >>> a smaller number of bigger batteries, if I want to. >>> >>> Ideally, Forrest would build this, so I could just plug it into the >>> SiteMonitors that are already there, and be able to monitor and control it >>> as well. >>> >>> Of course I can buy all the parts separately to do the same thing, but >>> having a pre-built box to do the job would be a lot cleaner. >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Josh Luthman < >>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>> >>>> It was 48v >>>> Then it was mostly 24v >>>> Now it's going 48v >>>> Just give it a little bit, it'll go back to 24v. >>>> >>>> I'd rather get a power supply doing 26v to fix my problem in 2 minutes >>>> than start changing things to 48v which would blow so much stuff up (epmp >>>> non gps, ubnt M gear, half the Mikrotiks) >>>> >>>> >>>> Josh Luthman >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> Suite 1337 >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 1:05 PM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> No, there's not really a good reason, it just means you have an extra >>>>> part to deal with. >>>>> >>>>> We still use UBNT for our 2.4ghz stuff, but those are the only radios >>>>> that won't run off 48v on most of our new sites, so I've done some that >>>>> are >>>>> 48v only and just use those things on the radios that need them. But if >>>>> you >>>>> have more than 1 or 2 things that need 24v, it's generally more practical >>>>> to just use a bigger voltage converter and run multiple radios off it. >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:57 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Yep, that was what I was thinking. >>>>>> So, looks to me like there is no reason not to do 48 volts. >>>>>> >>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:56 AM >>>>>> *To:* Chuck McCown >>>>>> *Cc:* Dave ; AFMUG >>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz >>>>>> >>>>>> You mean like this? >>>>>> https://www.ubnt.com/accessories/instant-8023af-adapters/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Or do you have something better in mind? >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:53 AM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Me too... >>>>>>> So, what appetite is there for an inline POE regulator that would >>>>>>> convert 48 to 24? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> *From:* Mathew Howard >>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, June 21, 2018 10:50 AM >>>>>>> *To:* Dave >>>>>>> *Cc:* AFMUG >>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] ePMP voltages again - specifically 2ghz >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ugh... I keep forgetting to use reply-to-all... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not every single UBNT radio... all the airfibers will happily take >>>>>>> 48v. Mikrotik is finally starting to make most of the new stuff handle >>>>>>> 48v >>>>>>> (including the PowerBox Pro), but yeah. UBNT is the reason I still have >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use 24v on most of our towers... they make a converter you can stick on >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> line with the radios, but that's kind of a pain if you have more than >>>>>>> one >>>>>>> or two, and it's an extra part to fail. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 11:46 AM, Dave <dmilho...@wletc.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They make dental floss for that :) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06/21/2018 11:39 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Except for every single Ubnt device and a majority of Mikrotiks.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+%0D%0A++++45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+%0D%0A++++++Wayne+St+Suite+%0D%0A++++++1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:39 PM, Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I promise life will be easier if you just use 48V. :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2018 at 12:35 PM, Josh Luthman < >>>>>>>>> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm trying to use a Powerbox Pro to power up two epmp APs. The 5 >>>>>>>>>> GHz is just fine but the 2 GHz is saying current too low. Both >>>>>>>>>> ports are >>>>>>>>>> getting 23 volts and the cables are <10 feet (from the Powerbox Pro). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Does anyone know if the 2ghz requires more voltage possibly? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Spec sheet does say 23 volts min but it's weird one powers (5 >>>>>>>>>> ghz) and the other doesn't. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Josh Luthman >>>>>>>>>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>>>>>>>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>>>>>>>>> 1100 Wayne St >>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>>> Suite 1337 >>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>>> Troy, OH 45373 >>>>>>>>>> <https://maps.google.com/?q=1100+Wayne+St+Suite+1337+Troy,+OH+45373&entry=gmail&source=g> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> AF mailing list >>>>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> AF mailing list >>>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
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