I want one with a Boston Scientific dog in the back. From: Steve Jones Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2019 4:46 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck
Tesla production models roaming the streets is scary enough without the nightmare of prototypes creeping through the alleys On Sat, Nov 23, 2019, 10:27 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: There may be prototypes roaming the streets as we speak. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/23/2019 8:05 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Review says the exterior is all “stabby” but the inside is comfy. https://www.engadget.com/2019/11/22/tesla-cybertruck-impressions-ride/ Stabby Steve would like it. I was surprise they were taking it on test drives, I had assumed it was a non functional prototype just for show. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Friday, November 22, 2019 7:58 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck Oh, he didn't opt for the cupholder delete option, which comes with a $4K/cupholder CREDIT... On 11/22/19 4:53 PM, Bill Prince wrote: I was just going by what Robert said as $8K, and I figured there were two of them. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/22/2019 4:51 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: Umm, Bill - fake news. Came in my 2016 Cayman GTS for nada… On Nov 22, 2019, at 7:37 PM, Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote: Yeah. Only $4K each. bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 11/22/2019 3:51 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: woah! you can get cupholders in a Porsche these days?! On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:30 PM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: Having gone through Porsche ordering hell, 8K gets you cupholders finally, Sound system? More like 15... On 11/22/2019 01:04 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > Toyota is super nice when it comes to base models. I got a 4 cylinder > Tacoma (should have gotten the v6, it's way too underpowered) base model > and it has touchscreen with bluetooth. Power windows/locks/etc. > > Porsche on the other hand requires you have something like $8k in > options for that feature. Another $2k if you want the bluetooth to do > audio as well. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:56 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > It was mostly a dig at the lowest priced option a manufacturer makes > probably is missing a variety of features one is used to. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:53:33 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > Yes Mike, it's a Toyota. Not Pontiac. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 3:51 PM Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net > <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote: > > Does a $30k truck come with AC? Power windows? Radio? > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> > *To: *"Mathew Howard" <mhoward...@gmail.com > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>>, "AnimalFarm Microwave Users > Group" <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 2:49:15 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Cybertruck > > OK... and? Still a far cry from $40 or $50. > > On 11/22/19 3:42 PM, Mathew Howard wrote: > > That's $32,780... > > > > On Fri, Nov 22, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Hoppes > > <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > > > > That’s the current model. > > > > Here’s the bill of sale: > > > > image1.jpeg > > > > On Nov 22, 2019, at 1:55 PM, Josh Luthman > > <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> > > wrote: > > > >> That's $36k, 20% more... > >> > >> Josh Luthman > >> Office: 937-552-2340 > >> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >> 1100 Wayne St > >> Suite 1337 > >> Troy, OH 45373 > >> > >> > >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 1:08 PM Matt Hoppes > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > >> > >> I’ll get you the bill of sale when I get back to the > office. > >> > >> Brand new 2018 Tundra. 100 miles. Never owned. No issue. > >> > >> Here’s a comparably equipped 2019 for $34k. > >> > >> <image1.png> > >> > >> On Nov 22, 2019, at 12:39 PM, Josh Luthman > >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > >> <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > <mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>>> wrote: > >> > >>> You think a truck would have sat on the lot for a > year? > >>> Tundras don't sell well, but I don't think they sell > >>> remarkably bad. > >>> > >>> Josh Luthman > >>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>> 1100 Wayne St > >>> Suite 1337 > >>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>> > >>> > >>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 12:38 PM Robert > >>> <i...@avantwireless.com > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com> <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Last year lot sitter, sure.... > >>> > >>> On 11/22/19 9:23 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >>>> I seriously doubt you got a new, untitled, > Tundra for > >>>> $30k, Especially with options. There's no > way they're > >>>> doing a 10%+ discount for you or anyone else > with a > >>>> single quantity purchase. I'll believe 30k > when I see > >>>> the bill of sale. > >>>> > >>>> Josh Luthman > >>>> Office: 937-552-2340 > >>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 > >>>> 1100 Wayne St > >>>> Suite 1337 > >>>> Troy, OH 45373 > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:57 AM Matt Hoppes > >>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> > >>>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> I absolutely know what trucks cost and > $50-$60k is > >>>> way too much. We > >>>> purchased a brand new Toyota Tundra two > years ago > >>>> for $30k... outfitted > >>>> well. > >>>> > >>>> On 11/22/19 10:33 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >>>> > To be consistent with my feelings on > their semi > >>>> truck, as long as the > >>>> > performance, specifications, > reliability, utility > >>>> are as promised, I > >>>> > care much less about how it appears. > >>>> > > >>>> > That $40k price point is nice, though > I'd want at > >>>> least the $50k to have > >>>> > AWD. > >>>> > > >>>> > I've seen people say stuff like, "OMG, > that too > >>>> much money for a truck." > >>>> > Clearly they have no idea what trucks > cost. I > >>>> haven't seen what the > >>>> > electric ATV costs. > >>>> > > >>>> > I also wonder what else changes between > the tiers. > >>>> Adding more motors > >>>> > shouldn't add to the range of the > vehicle, so > >>>> what's happening with the > >>>> > battery, weight, etc. Adding more batteries > >>>> shouldn't make it faster, so > >>>> > what's up with the extra motors? > >>>> > > >>>> > I'm more willing to admit I don't need > to pull a > >>>> house with my daily > >>>> > driver because I can always get > something from the > >>>> farm. I just want it > >>>> > to be big enough to handle most things. > Hell, even > >>>> the 14k towing would > >>>> > be enough for our Bobcat and trailer. > >>>> > > >>>> > I wonder how trailers work with the > EVs... how > >>>> easy is it to add (or > >>>> > get the option for) gooseneck, fifth > wheel, etc. > >>>> > > >>>> > I do like the hard, lockable tonneau > cover. Maybe > >>>> Rivian had it > >>>> > available and I just forgot. Nice place > to store a > >>>> bunch of tools for a > >>>> > work truck, though no place to add a > ladder rack. > >>>> > > >>>> > I was annoyed they didn't have battery > specs, but > >>>> I suppose that could > >>>> > still be fuzzy. Maybe they don't know if > they need > >>>> 100 or 110 kw to meet > >>>> > their advertised performance numbers. > >>>> > > >>>> > Weight would be nice to know as well. > >>>> > > >>>> > I'm not surprised on the design. All > else equal, > >>>> I'd probably prefer the > >>>> > Rivian, but let's see how things > actually bare > >>>> out. What's the "mpg" > >>>> > compared to Rivian? I guess it'd be MPkWh? > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > ----- > >>>> > Mike Hammett > >>>> > Intelligent Computing Solutions > >>>> <http://www.ics-il.com/> > >>>> > > >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL><https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb><https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions><https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > >>>> > Midwest Internet Exchange > <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > >>>> > > >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix><https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange><https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > >>>> > The Brothers WISP > <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > >>>> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > > >>>> > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > >>>> > > >>>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >>>> > *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > >>>> <mailto:af...@kwisp.com > <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>> > >>>> > *To: *"AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" > >>>> <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > <mailto:af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>>> > >>>> > *Sent: *Friday, November 22, 2019 9:25:31 AM > >>>> > *Subject: *[AFMUG] Cybertruck > >>>> > > >>>> > I was expecting to see some comments > from this > >>>> crowd. Was everyone > >>>> > suitably underwhelmed? Or running out > to place > >>>> your pre-orders? > >>>> > > >>>> > I think I saw one comment that it looked > like a > >>>> cross between an El > >>>> > Camino and a Pontiac Aztec. It > certainly was not > >>>> what I expected when I > >>>> > heard Tesla was going to bring out an > electric > >>>> truck. 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