You don’t see a major issue losing 60 miles when it’s cold out? Yes. Gas changes - but because I put a trailer on or minorly with temperature change.
Batteries change majorly just with use. That’s my point - I have a 1/4 tank and go up to a tower - I’ll still have a 1/4 tank. Tesla with 50 miles go up to tower with heat running and I’m stranded. Consider also that a cop car running on gas can turn around in 3 minutes from a refuel vs 20-70 for a super charge. > On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:43 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote: > > Matt, > > You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets worse > in every gad vehicle with cold temps and higher loads as well. > > In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in the > winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling behind our chevy, we get about > 10mpg compared to our 19mpg without it. > > I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the same things > that affect battery range. > > Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of most peoples daily > miles. I can day our work vans definitely don't drive more than the 300 to > 500 mile range the truck will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with normal > weather and in the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care of my > daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in north Dakota. > It's on their to do list. > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >> Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. >> >> This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric >> truck: >> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html >> >> “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the charge, >> but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation, going over 110 >> miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down faster,” Ms. Bosques >> said. >> >> The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as soon as he started >> the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call off the chase. >> >> Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go, and you start up >> a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and suddenly get >> stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the load of >> pulling up the hill. >> >> Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the same no matter what. >> Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and usage. >> >> On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >> > Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I always have 200 >> > miles on the tank. At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be >> > charged. Local police departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a >> > different mindset. No maintenance and a truck good for a half million >> > miles with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge with solar). >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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