Yeah... driving 100+ MPH burns lots and lots of gas... On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 10:05 AM Robert Andrews <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
> High speed chases aren't at 70. We drove my denali when it was brand > new out on the backside of 50 across Nevada with no speed limits. MPH > at 70 was about 15. At 100... 8 MPG at 125 with the rev limiter > kicking in it was 4 MPG... Actual data collected on the trip and we > stopped at every darn gas station we could find... But we had a hell > of a fun trip... > > On 11/30/2019 07:46 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote: > > All of our vehicles show range. > > > > Never have I ever seen that kind of drop going from 35mph to 70 on the > > highway or higher. > > > > On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com > > <mailto:mhoward...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > > >> The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50 > >> miles of range left (most gas vehicles do have that feature these > >> days...), if you go from driving a gas car at 50 MPH to 120 MPH, your > >> MPG is going to drop too, and not a small amount. > >> > >> I probably wouldn't want to only have an electric car at this point, > >> because there are absolutely situations where they simply aren't > >> practical, and there are places that there's no practical way to get > >> to in my Tesla (I'd either have to drive 50-100 miles out of the way > >> to stop at a Supercharger, or find another way of charging, which > >> would take hours)... or I might need to go somewhere 80 miles away at > >> the end of the day, and don't have time to wait for a supercharger... > >> in that case, I'll just drive my Jeep. > >> > >> That said, I haven't yet needed to go anywhere that was a problem in > >> the Tesla, and the time I've spent at superchargers adds up to a lot > >> less than the time I would've spent at gas pumps in the past six months. > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Matt Hoppes > >> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > >> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: > >> > >> That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50 > >> miles of range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors > >> aren’t efficient at high speeds. > >> > >> On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com > >> <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote: > >> > >>> For that police chase article, the department actually updated > >>> and said the car wasn't fully charged the night before from the > >>> officer who used it last. He forgot to plug it in so the car > >>> never started the shift with a full charge. Not the Teslas fault. > >>> > >>> > https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-cruiser-runs-out-battery-chase-user-error/ > >>> > >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 AM Darin Steffl > >>> <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com <mailto:darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Matt, > >>> > >>> You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally > >>> false. Mpg gets worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps > >>> and higher loads as well. > >>> > >>> In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda > >>> accord in the winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling > >>> behind our chevy, we get about 10mpg compared to our 19mpg > >>> without it. > >>> > >>> I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the > >>> same things that affect battery range. > >>> > >>> Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of > >>> most peoples daily miles. I can day our work vans definitely > >>> don't drive more than the 300 to 500 mile range the truck > >>> will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with normal weather and in > >>> the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care of my > >>> daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in > >>> north Dakota. It's on their to do list. > >>> > >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes > >>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net > >>> <mailto:mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net>> wrote: > >>> > >>> Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. > >>> > >>> This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles > >>> and an electric > >>> truck: > >>> > https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html > >>> > >>> “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left > >>> on the charge, > >>> but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation, > >>> going over 110 > >>> miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down > >>> faster,” Ms. Bosques > >>> said. > >>> > >>> The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as > >>> soon as he started > >>> the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call > >>> off the chase. > >>> > >>> Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go, > >>> and you start up > >>> a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and > >>> suddenly get > >>> stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the > >>> load of > >>> pulling up the hill. > >>> > >>> Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the > >>> same no matter what. > >>> Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and > >>> usage. > >>> > >>> On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: > >>> > Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I > >>> always have 200 miles on the tank. At the end of a full > >>> day of driving yes it needs to be charged. Local police > >>> departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a > >>> different mindset. 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