All of our vehicles show range. 

Never have I ever seen that kind of drop going from 35mph to 70 on the highway 
or higher. 

> On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50 miles 
> of range left (most gas vehicles do have that feature these days...), if you 
> go from driving a gas car at 50 MPH to 120 MPH, your MPG is going to drop 
> too, and not a small amount.
> 
> I probably wouldn't want to only have an electric car at this point, because 
> there are absolutely situations where they simply aren't practical, and there 
> are places that there's no practical way to get to in my Tesla (I'd either 
> have to drive 50-100 miles out of the way to stop at a Supercharger, or find 
> another way of charging, which would take hours)... or I might need to go 
> somewhere 80 miles away at the end of the day, and don't have time to wait 
> for a supercharger... in that case, I'll just drive my Jeep.
> 
> That said, I haven't yet needed to go anywhere that was a problem in the 
> Tesla, and the time I've spent at superchargers adds up to a lot less than 
> the time I would've spent at gas pumps in the past six months.
> 
>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Matt Hoppes 
>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>> That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50 miles of 
>> range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors aren’t efficient at 
>> high speeds. 
>> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> For that police chase article, the department actually updated and said the 
>>> car wasn't fully charged the night before from the officer who used it 
>>> last. He forgot to plug it in so the car never started the shift with a 
>>> full charge. Not the Teslas fault.
>>> 
>>> https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-cruiser-runs-out-battery-chase-user-error/
>>> 
>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:
>>>> Matt,
>>>> 
>>>> You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets 
>>>> worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps and higher loads as well. 
>>>> 
>>>> In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in 
>>>> the winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling behind our chevy, we get 
>>>> about 10mpg compared to our 19mpg without it. 
>>>> 
>>>> I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the same things 
>>>> that affect battery range. 
>>>> 
>>>> Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of most peoples 
>>>> daily miles. I can day our work vans definitely don't drive more than the 
>>>> 300 to 500 mile range the truck will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with 
>>>> normal weather and in the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care 
>>>> of my daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in north 
>>>> Dakota. It's on their to do list. 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes 
>>>>> <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote:
>>>>> Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck.
>>>>> 
>>>>> This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric 
>>>>> truck:
>>>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the charge, 
>>>>> but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation, going over 110 
>>>>> miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down faster,” Ms. Bosques 
>>>>> said.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as soon as he started 
>>>>> the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call off the chase.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go, and you start up 
>>>>> a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and suddenly get 
>>>>> stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the load of 
>>>>> pulling up the hill.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the same no matter 
>>>>> what.
>>>>> Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and usage.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote:
>>>>> > Depends on distance.  My car is always charged.  So I always have 200 
>>>>> > miles on the tank.  At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to 
>>>>> > be charged.  Local police departments are making Teslas work.  Just 
>>>>> > takes a different mindset.  No maintenance and a truck good for a half 
>>>>> > million miles with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge 
>>>>> > with solar).
>>>>> 
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