No, it's not going to be as big of a drop, but it is going to drop... and starting a high speed chase to parts unknown with 50 miles of range on gas car probably isn't going to go too well either.
Electric cars are certainly different than what we're used to, but that doesn't make them worse. They're better at some things than gas, and worse than some things. My opinion after driving one for 10,000 miles, is that overall, electric is better for the vast majority of what I do with a car. On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 9:47 AM Matt Hoppes <mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > All of our vehicles show range. > > Never have I ever seen that kind of drop going from 35mph to 70 on the > highway or higher. > > On Nov 30, 2019, at 10:42 AM, Mathew Howard <mhoward...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The same thing would happen if it had been a gas vehicle that said 50 > miles of range left (most gas vehicles do have that feature these days...), > if you go from driving a gas car at 50 MPH to 120 MPH, your MPG is going to > drop too, and not a small amount. > > I probably wouldn't want to only have an electric car at this point, > because there are absolutely situations where they simply aren't practical, > and there are places that there's no practical way to get to in my Tesla > (I'd either have to drive 50-100 miles out of the way to stop at a > Supercharger, or find another way of charging, which would take hours)... > or I might need to go somewhere 80 miles away at the end of the day, and > don't have time to wait for a supercharger... in that case, I'll just drive > my Jeep. > > That said, I haven't yet needed to go anywhere that was a problem in the > Tesla, and the time I've spent at superchargers adds up to a lot less than > the time I would've spent at gas pumps in the past six months. > > On Sat, Nov 30, 2019 at 9:06 AM Matt Hoppes < > mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: > >> That’s a fan boy answer. Yes it is the cars fault. The car said 50 miles >> of range. Which then dropped to 8 because electric motors aren’t efficient >> at high speeds. >> >> On Nov 30, 2019, at 9:47 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >> For that police chase article, the department actually updated and said >> the car wasn't fully charged the night before from the officer who used it >> last. He forgot to plug it in so the car never started the shift with a >> full charge. Not the Teslas fault. >> >> >> https://electrek.co/2019/09/25/tesla-police-cruiser-runs-out-battery-chase-user-error/ >> >> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:43 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Matt, >>> >>> You said gas is the same no matter what. That's totally false. Mpg gets >>> worse in every gad vehicle with cold temps and higher loads as well. >>> >>> In the cold, I've always lost 4 to 8 mpg in my truck or Honda accord in >>> the winter. With the snowmobile trailer pulling behind our chevy, we get >>> about 10mpg compared to our 19mpg without it. >>> >>> I'm not sure why you would say gas vehicles are immune to the same >>> things that affect battery range. >>> >>> Anyway, plugging in every night pretty much handles 99% of most peoples >>> daily miles. I can day our work vans definitely don't drive more than the >>> 300 to 500 mile range the truck will have. My model 3 is 310 miles with >>> normal weather and in the winter, about 250 miles which always takes care >>> of my daily drive. Roadtrips have superchargers all over except in north >>> Dakota. It's on their to do list. >>> >>> On Sat, Nov 30, 2019, 8:22 AM Matt Hoppes < >>> mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks for bringing that up, Chuck. >>>> >>>> This is exactly what scares me about electric vehicles and an electric >>>> truck: >>>> https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/03/us/tesla-police-car-chase.html >>>> >>>> “We think it started the pursuit with about 50 miles left on the >>>> charge, >>>> but when cars accelerate at speeds such as the situation, going over >>>> 110 >>>> miles per hour, the car charge starts to drain down faster,” Ms. >>>> Bosques >>>> said. >>>> >>>> The officer had "50 miles" left on the charge, but as soon as he >>>> started >>>> the chase the range dropped to 8 miles and he had to call off the chase. >>>> >>>> Imagine having your truck say you have 100 miles to go, and you start >>>> up >>>> a steep mountain incline to get to a tower site and suddenly get >>>> stranded because it dropped to 10 miles of range from the load of >>>> pulling up the hill. >>>> >>>> Gas - I always know what I have and in general it's the same no matter >>>> what. >>>> Electric - Huge variations depending on temperature and usage. >>>> >>>> On 11/30/19 8:56 AM, Chuck McCown wrote: >>>> > Depends on distance. My car is always charged. So I always have 200 >>>> miles on the tank. At the end of a full day of driving yes it needs to be >>>> charged. Local police departments are making Teslas work. Just takes a >>>> different mindset. No maintenance and a truck good for a half million >>>> miles with no fuel costs is pretty attractive to me (I charge with solar). >>>> >>>> -- >>>> AF mailing list >>>> AF@af.afmug.com >>>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>>> >>> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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