Some people with speech impediments have adapted to use filler words instead of 
their stutter or whatever afflicts them. 




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From: "David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:17:50 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum 



Things appear to be changing over time, however, I don’t think it is 
appropriate in a business setting. I recently completed a 5 year consulting 
project for Wells Fargo and 3 years of work before that for Best Buy’s 
corporate IT group. It is definitely not common place and not looked at as 
acceptable, even in lower level meetings. Once you leave the office and are 
having drinks, knock yourself out with the salty language. From everything I 
have heard the things you don’t do at work are: 

    1. Swear 
    2. Lose your temper 
    3. Talk politics 

Those are above the obvious ones related to sexual harassment, stealing, etc. 

In my role at Wells Fargo, myself and two others interviewed and hired for 3 
dozen consulting roles. Swearing in the interview, over use of the word “Like” 
were among the items that severely negatively impacted a person’s ability to 
get the role. If you can’t express an idea without swearing or misusing the 
word Like, you weren’t a serious candidate. 

Just my two cents…..  

Regards, 

David Coudron 


From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Nate Burke 
Sent: Friday, April 24, 2020 10:04 AM 
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT business decorum 

I don't talk that way, so It puts me off when I'm around people that do. I'll 
admit that I will judge a person based on how they're speaking. Having not used 
that language, I will say that it seems that is becoming the 'normal' Even when 
visiting customers now, those words just are in their natural speech now. 

However, I watch TV shows/movies where the language is just a blue, and it 
doesn't seem to bother me. Youtube videos do bother me though. Maybe something 
about having a scripted reason to say it, vs just saying to to fill time? 

On 4/24/2020 9:53 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 





Had a vendor make a visit to my company a while back and during the visit he 
was dropping the F bomb left and right. I would have thought he would have 
toned it down as my wife was in the meeting. After he left I told a 
manufacturer’s rep about it and he contacted the guys boss and the next thing I 
know the guy is apologizing. Was not trying to cause him problems as work, just 
asking for a sanity check. 



I have been in probably thousands of board and business meetings over the 
years, and don’t recall anyone ever being gratuitous in the use of the F word. 
I do recall one of the big bosses at Harris Broadcast in Quincy Il complaining 
about their director of sales being too salty for high end businesses meetings. 



Then yesterday I was taken to task by a video blogger which had done a pretty 
good job in his Tesla review except for the F bomb every other sentence. I told 
him it was about as welcome as a fart in an elevator. He thinks I am too old to 
have a valid opinion. I guess he is one of those thin skinned millennials... 



TV shows it all the time, but I don’t think it is common in the business world. 
Perhaps Utah is in a bubble? 










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