One of the reasons I have always liked companies that start all newbies with a trusted(by you) mentor.  That mentor can usually make the call within days of the hiring of the value of the newbie.  One week and one month review between you and the mentor.   Your choice on disclosure of the newbie's status via the mentor at the start.  But formally assigned to the mentor upon hiring...

On 8/19/20 11:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
It would have been cheaper to have paid him to sit on the side of the street for the rest of the day.  And my wife just told me that he has not even been with us 30 days yet. I got a creepy feeling about him from the get – go.  Was way too familiar with me for my liking.  (I think I will adopt the Ellen rule:  no eye contact for the first 10 years...) Another one bites the dust.  I have always said the following about hiring and firing: I have (with the exception of one guy) never regretted firing anyone.  Almost always have wished I had done it sooner. Firing makes your company stronger if done right.  Your coworkers see that you are not letting toxic or slacker people continue to be employed.
*From:* Adam Moffett
*Sent:* Wednesday, August 19, 2020 11:53 AM
*To:* af@af.afmug.com
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT fired a guy

You're not leaving him stranded in the desert, just telling him what time the ride is.  My only question would be whether you are required to pay him for the time he's just sitting there.  His time isn't really his own at that point.

As an optics thing it won't play well.   Might have been better to wait until the end of the work day.

On 8/19/2020 1:46 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
My supervisor fired a problem employee at a construction site this morning.  We have had lots of problems with this guy and I was glad to see him go.  We hauled him to the job site and now he wants someone to take him back to our office to get his vehicle.  I cannot spare a person or vehicle at that site.  I don’t want to send someone special over to that site to haul him.  Both the supervisor and I told him he can sit on the side of the street until we are done for the day and we will take him back. He has his brother now calling and threatening police action, saying it is Utah law that you have to give him a ride. Not sure about that.  If he was not such a dick I would have probably sent someone to get him.  I don’t want to do it, I don’t want to send any of the women. Anyone every heard that you have a legal duty to immediately transport someone back to their vehicle if you terminate them?

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