I know it *CAN* be anything. 

I'm asking what it is for successful, arms-length, nothing special 
transactions. I do expect there to be a range. 





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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:28:58 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s 

That can be anything. There is no connection between revenue and earnings. You 
can have $2M in revenue but -$5M in income if you burned cash to generate 
sales. 


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On Aug 22, 2020, at 7:35 PM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: 




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Right, but what I'm asking is that if 5x EDIBTA = Y, then what was Y / annual 
revenue? 




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From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2020 10:01:44 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s 

Whatever 5x your earnings are. Not sales or revenue or gross profit but bottom 
line earnings on your income statement/ pl. Your taxable income. 


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On Aug 22, 2020, at 8:16 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote: 


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What does the revenue multiplier end up being, though? 

5x EBIDTA / revenue gets you what, in purchases that have been made? 




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----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> 
To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <af@af.afmug.com> 
Sent: Friday, August 21, 2020 8:20:47 PM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying and selling ISP’s 

5 x ebidta 
Revenue multiples are of no value. 


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On Aug 21, 2020, at 5:30 PM, cjwstudios <cjwstud...@gmail.com> wrote: 


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1x annual revenue and hope the customers stay on 



On Fri, Aug 21, 2020 at 5:43 PM Matt Hoppes < mattli...@rivervalleyinternet.net 
> wrote: 

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This is the issue I’ve always had when I’ve looked at buying an ISP. It always 
seems like a lot more money I would have to put out to buy then I could just 
build and take the customers if something is wrong with the current network. 



> On Aug 21, 2020, at 12:43 PM, Seth Mattinen < se...@rollernet.us > wrote: 

> 

> On 8/20/20 8:13 PM, Steve Jones wrote: 

>> I think you either buy or sell, isp isnt really a flip thing 

> 

> 

> There is/was someone in my part of the country buying up ISPs and trying to 
> package them all together as a flip. My ISP customers tell me it's far easier 
> to get the flipper's customers to cancel and switch than buy their company. 

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