Right, they are always full of water.
I made a proofing dart with a cup seal at the end.  
20 GPM 200 PSI moves it along at about 5 feet per second.  The pump was 
remarkably cheap to build.  

The cable or mule tape is buoyant so that reduces friction and the water does 
too.  I have read about this for years but never tried it.  

From: TJ Trout 
Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 1:37 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit

Underground condit gets filled with water from condensation anyway, so I'm sure 
he doesn't clean it out. I'm assuming he's using a dart and pushing it with 
water to pull cable in?

On Mon, Nov 8, 2021 at 12:34 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

  I don't understand how that works (with water). Seems like it would be a 
  pain to get it out? or do you just leave it in there?


  bp
  <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

  On 11/8/2021 11:59 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  > Cheap is a selling point for me.  We have started to put stuff down 
  > conduit with water rather than air.  So far it is much better than air.
  >
  > -----Original Message----- From: Chris Fabien
  > Sent: Monday, November 8, 2021 10:33 AM
  > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
  > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
  >
  > I would just use normal duct of whatever size is appropriate . That
  > just doesn't look as sturdy as solid wall of plastic. Looks like being
  > more flexible is the key selling point.
  >
  > On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 7:02 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
  > wrote:
  >>
  >> No, not smurf tube.  It is corrugated micro duct.
  >>
  >> Sent from my iPhone
  >>
  >> On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:02 PM, Josh Luthman 
  >> <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote:
  >>
  >> 
  >> The cheap stuff from Home Depot?  That sounds like a nightmare.
  >>
  >> Josh Luthman
  >> 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340
  >> Direct: 937-552-2343
  >> 1100 Wayne St
  >> Suite 1337
  >> Troy, OH 45373
  >>
  >>
  >> On Thu, Nov 4, 2021 at 4:08 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
  >> wrote:
  >>>
  >>> There is HDPE versions that are designed for direct burial.
  >>>
  >>> From: Bill Prince
  >>> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 2:04 PM
  >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
  >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> That orange stuff? I would not think it is outdoor rated, nor would 
  >>> it hold up if buried.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> bp
  >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  >>>
  >>> On 11/4/2021 12:56 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  >>>
  >>> Conduit.  Like 1/2” corrugated microduct.
  >>>
  >>> From: Bill Prince
  >>> Sent: Thursday, November 4, 2021 1:41 PM
  >>> To: af@af.afmug.com
  >>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] corrugated conduit
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> You talking about conduit or culvert?
  >>>
  >>> We replaced all of our old corrugated (galvanized)  culvert(s) with 
  >>> the plastic stuff that's corrugated on the outside and smooth wall 
  >>> on the inside. Way better stuff because it doesn't trap stuff.
  >>>
  >>>
  >>>
  >>> bp
  >>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
  >>>
  >>> On 11/4/2021 12:30 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
  >>>
  >>> Anyone have any opinions about using cheap corrugated conduit for 
  >>> areas where the ditch is already open?
  >>> I have never used it.  I worry it is not terribly strong and you 
  >>> probably can’t blow it.
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