10 kW of solar would cost about $5K or less. Say you spend $200 per month on gas the panels pay for themselves in a couple of years.
From: Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 9:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT That calculation is wrong based on current data in MN at least. I ran the numbers and 300 miles out of 358 mile range on M3 long range is roughly 68kwh out of an 82kwh battery. In MN at 0.33/kwh, the cost to add 300 miles of range is about $22.67 Compare to a camry that maybe averages 32 MPG at $4.30 a gallon and the cost to go the same 300 miles is $40.31 so I guess even with higher charger costs than normal, it's still cheaper than gas. Comparing to an suv or truck and it's even more savings. The best part is that tesla is more efficient than most/all gas vehicles but also faster than many of them too. The cost at home for me to add 300 miles of range is about $8.25 On Fri, May 27, 2022, 10:04 AM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: ~300 miles for $13 https://evadept.com/calc/tesla-supercharger-charging-cost-calculator On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:43 AM Nate Burke <n...@blastcomm.com> wrote: Loving this thread 'Learning Everthing Needed about Teslas' Seems lots of people here have Teslas. How does billing at the Supercharger actually work? I read through the website, and the back-of-the-napkin math I ran seemed that charging at a supercharger was about the equivalent of a tank of gas. ~$40-$50 (I have a small car). Is that accurate? On 5/27/2022 9:04 AM, Josh Luthman wrote: Tap the Climate Controls settings screen > turn on Preconditioning in settings > select 'Schedule' to set a daily time when you want to be ready to drive. There's also a great API to control your car from anywhere (as long as it has connectivity). On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: Can you schedule the climate control to turn on? I like that my Leaf will start the AC or heat a half hour before my normal drive times. Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: Tesla recommends plugging in. You can set how full it will charge to with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you leave that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries. You will like the phone app it has a lot of features. I figured out that you can create an email alias and have both your and your wifes phone use that to log in with full features instead of having a superior and inferior account. On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home. Never had a battery problem. Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that problem. Looking forward to the heated battery. Not understanding if I should not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT. I like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want. But if that is hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more fun. The infotainment is awesome too. Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even with lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time will be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You should not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips to keep the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be made faster if you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for example. For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged above 90% for an extended period of time. But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the LFP battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need to do so on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit 100%. Just charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so you can find spots like restaurants or hotels that offer free charging. https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues. A car is a tool, not a trophy. It is an expense, not an investment. A tesla is an extravagance, not a need. But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf lease is expiring I needed to get something. I am buying this and I bought an airplane once. Only two times I have bought something I didn’t really need. From: Bill Prince Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their components. If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do with niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look almost perfect WRT fit and finish. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Is this coming from a Tesla owner? Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company. From: Ryan Ray Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with a company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service or customer in general? On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one... I have some time to cancel this order... I am a cheap bugger. This might be the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one? From: Robert Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September, which, after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been three months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y. Getting into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now being replaced. We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to throw money at. I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used stay this high. $20K over our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as the factories ramp up. On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote: Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y is is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car and I still have the gas guzzling 911! Peace out. On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: Model 3 They predict Sept to December delivery. $46K 375 mile range I think. I really like the cruise control. It does lane keeping so I really don’t see a use for an autopilot. From: Cassidy B. Larson Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time? On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: Sorry, I started it. Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show. Ken and Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore. But we do have the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out. But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that need trolling. Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments. So it is now dead until Lent is over. Next year’s lent. BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla. My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in July so I took the leap. Did a test drive today and really loved it. 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