Solar panels and batteries are free at the McCown shop?

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 11:20 AM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:

> My rate is typically $0.12 per kWh or less but I have grid tied solar at
> home and at the shop, so in theory I get free charging.  But also free from
> stopping at a gas station all the time and never any oil changes.
>
> *From:* Darin Steffl
> *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2022 9:02 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> *Cc:* Josh Luthman ; Chuck McCown
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>
> I forgot to reply about the Supercharger costs. So as long as you have
> your credit card linked to your tesla account, charging is super easy. Back
> up to the pedestal and plug it in. That's it. It's then billed to your
> account at the end of the session.
>
> Costs have increased a lot this year so it's becoming closer to the cost
> of gas but not quite there. It will always be cheaper to charge at home for
> your daily use. Only use superchargers for road trips. In MN, the
> supercharger costs $0.33/kwh but my home is roughly $0.125/kwh so almost 3x
> cheaper at home. I think in 2018 when I had my first tesla, it was around
> $0.21/kwh at chargers.
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, May 27, 2022, 9:58 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Tesla definitely has precondition schedule to warm the battery and
>> interior with Hvac. I don't use it in my garage because I don't care to
>> have the car warm or cold before my drive. It heats and cools so fast I
>> don't see the point. I sometime manually turn on Hvac to defrost my
>> windshield in the winter when it's sitting outside. Turn it on 5 to 10 mins
>> before you're ready to go and your car is heated, seats are hot, and
>> steering wheel too. All from within the app of course.
>>
>> On Fri, May 27, 2022, 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Perfect, I asked the sales rep after the test drive about that and he
>>> said it does not have that feature.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Friday, May 27, 2022 8:04 AM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>
>>> Tap the Climate Controls settings screen > turn on Preconditioning in
>>> settings > select 'Schedule' to set a daily time when you want to be ready
>>> to drive.
>>>
>>> There's also a great API to control your car from anywhere (as long as
>>> it has connectivity).
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Can you schedule the climate control to turn on?  I like that my Leaf
>>>> will start the AC or heat a half hour before my normal drive times.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On May 26, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Tesla recommends plugging in.   You can set how full it will charge
>>>> to with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you
>>>> leave that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries.   You
>>>> will like the phone app it has a lot of features.   I figured out that you
>>>> can create an email alias and have both your and your wifes phone use that
>>>> to log in with full features instead of having a superior and inferior
>>>> account.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>>>
>>>> With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or in
>>>> one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home.  Never had a
>>>> battery problem.  Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that
>>>> problem.
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to the heated battery.  Not understanding if I should
>>>> not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT.  I
>>>> like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want.  But
>>>> if that is hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Darin Steffl
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>>
>>>> If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be VERY
>>>> happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and more
>>>> fun. The infotainment is awesome too.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger
>>>> network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even
>>>> with lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time
>>>> will be under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each
>>>> charge. You should not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range
>>>> to get to the next charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips
>>>> to keep the charge times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases
>>>> the closer you get to 100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be
>>>> made faster if you charge from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to
>>>> 100% for example.
>>>>
>>>> For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% full
>>>> to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan
>>>> on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged
>>>> above 90% for an extended period of time.
>>>>
>>>> But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get the
>>>> LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about
>>>> hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the
>>>> LFP battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need
>>>> to do so on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit
>>>> 100%. Just charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or
>>>> destination. Also download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all
>>>> around the country that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so
>>>> you can find spots like restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a tool,
>>>>> not a trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an
>>>>> extravagance, not a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my
>>>>> Leaf lease is expiring I needed to get something.  I am buying this and I
>>>>> bought an airplane once.  Only two times I have bought something I didn’t
>>>>> really need.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Bill Prince
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for "reliability"
>>>>> or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed relatively
>>>>> closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their components.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to do
>>>>> with niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view
>>>>> mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are
>>>>> also on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in
>>>>> China). They have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones
>>>>> I've seen look almost perfect WRT fit and finish.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> bp
>>>>> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this coming from a Tesla owner?
>>>>>
>>>>> Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or company.
>>>>>
>>>>> *From:* Ryan Ray
>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>>>
>>>>> Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or longevity with
>>>>> a company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, poor warranty
>>>>> experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their customer service
>>>>> or customer in general?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a used one...
>>>>>> I have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  This 
>>>>>> might
>>>>>> be the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Robert
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in September,
>>>>>> which, after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have been
>>>>>> three months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.
>>>>>> Getting into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> now being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features
>>>>>> and I think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys 
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> willing to throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the
>>>>>> prices for used stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to
>>>>>> refuse, with the likely reduction in lead times in the next year or so as
>>>>>> the factories ramp up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, our Model Y
>>>>>> is is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s car 
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> I still have the gas guzzling 911!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Peace out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  375 mile
>>>>>> range I think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane keeping 
>>>>>> so
>>>>>> I really don’t see a use for an autopilot.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Cassidy B. Larson
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
>>>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] LENT
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead time?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, I started it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve show.  Ken and
>>>>>> Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  But we do
>>>>>> have the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled the guys that
>>>>>> need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is coming due in
>>>>>> July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved it.  I
>>>>>> loved the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of
>>>>>> enjoyment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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