Sweet deal.  

From: Carl Peterson 
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 10:06 AM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

Darin,  

Not sure where in MN you are, but in Mankato Excel Energy has a program where 
if you install their charger in you garage it is .028 per KWh from midnight to 
6AM.  

On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 10:22 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

  I forgot to reply about the Supercharger costs. So as long as you have your 
credit card linked to your tesla account, charging is super easy. Back up to 
the pedestal and plug it in. That's it. It's then billed to your account at the 
end of the session. 

  Costs have increased a lot this year so it's becoming closer to the cost of 
gas but not quite there. It will always be cheaper to charge at home for your 
daily use. Only use superchargers for road trips. In MN, the supercharger costs 
$0.33/kwh but my home is roughly $0.125/kwh so almost 3x cheaper at home. I 
think in 2018 when I had my first tesla, it was around $0.21/kwh at chargers.




  On Fri, May 27, 2022, 9:58 AM Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> wrote:

    Tesla definitely has precondition schedule to warm the battery and interior 
with Hvac. I don't use it in my garage because I don't care to have the car 
warm or cold before my drive. It heats and cools so fast I don't see the point. 
I sometime manually turn on Hvac to defrost my windshield in the winter when 
it's sitting outside. Turn it on 5 to 10 mins before you're ready to go and 
your car is heated, seats are hot, and steering wheel too. All from within the 
app of course.

    On Fri, May 27, 2022, 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

      Perfect, I asked the sales rep after the test drive about that and he 
said it does not have that feature.  

      From: Josh Luthman 
      Sent: Friday, May 27, 2022 8:04 AM
      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
      Cc: Chuck McCown 
      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

      Tap the Climate Controls settings screen > turn on Preconditioning in 
settings > select 'Schedule' to set a daily time when you want to be ready to 
drive.


      There's also a great API to control your car from anywhere (as long as it 
has connectivity).

      On Fri, May 27, 2022 at 9:44 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> 
wrote:

        Can you schedule the climate control to turn on?  I like that my Leaf 
will start the AC or heat a half hour before my normal drive times.


        Sent from my iPhone


          On May 26, 2022, at 8:26 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote:


           Tesla recommends plugging in.   You can set how full it will charge 
to with the phone app, but the LFP batteries you are getting will let you leave 
that at 100% without impacting performance of the batteries.   You will like 
the phone app it has a lot of features.   I figured out that you can create an 
email alias and have both your and your wifes phone use that to log in with 
full features instead of having a superior and inferior account.   


          On 5/26/22 2:31 PM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

            With the Leaf, I have always plugged it in when I got to work, or 
in one case where I had a long commute, both at work and at home.  Never had a 
battery problem.  Except during really cold weather but all Leafs have that 
problem.

            Looking forward to the heated battery.  Not understanding if I 
should not charge the Tesla every day as my daily commute is about 14 miles RT. 
 I like having it topped up every day so that I can go wherever I want.  But if 
that is hard on the battery I will have to change the way I charge.  



            From: Darin Steffl 
            Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 3:11 PM
            To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
            Cc: Chuck McCown 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

            If you're not looking at the exterior with a microscope, you'll be 
VERY happy with your M3 over the Leaf. It's faster, more range, bigger, and 
more fun. The infotainment is awesome too. 

            Let us know your review of the car once you get it. Their charger 
network is the largest in the world too so road trips are quite easy even with 
lower range. You have the smaller battery in that model so charge time will be 
under 20 minutes to add 70-80% of the total capacity on each charge. You should 
not charge to 100% unless you absolutely need that range to get to the next 
charger. I recommend only charging to 80% on road trips to keep the charge 
times down. Like any battery, the charge rate decreases the closer you get to 
100%. It drops pretty quick after 80% so trips can be made faster if you charge 
from 10% to 80% than if you charge from 40% to 100% for example.

            For your daily charging at home, they recommend no more than 90% 
full to maintain the range of your battery. If you charge more than that, plan 
on driving the car within a couple hours so your car doesn't sit charged above 
90% for an extended period of time.

            But if you ordered the RWD small battery version, I think you get 
the LFP battery which means you can charge to 100% with no concerns about 
hurting the battery. The link below will help you determine if you have the LFP 
battery. If you do, you can charge to 100% at home but you do not need to do so 
on road trips using superchargers because it takes too long to hit 100%. Just 
charge until you have enough range to reach your next stop or destination. Also 
download Plugshare and you can find Level 2 chargers all around the country 
that aren't listed in the Tesla map. Many are free so you can find spots like 
restaurants or hotels that offer free charging.

            
https://www.tesla.com/ownersmanual/model3/en_jo/GUID-7FE78D73-0A17-47C4-B21B-54F641FFAEF4.html


            On Thu, May 26, 2022 at 2:43 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

              I am not terribly anal for fit and finish issues.  A car is a 
tool, not a trophy.  It is an expense, not an investment.  A tesla is an 
extravagance, not a need.  But I sure hate buying gasoline, so since my Leaf 
lease is expiring I needed to get something.  I am buying this and I bought an 
airplane once.  Only two times I have bought something I didn’t really need.  

              From: Bill Prince 
              Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 11:42 AM
              To: af@af.afmug.com 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

              Tesla's in general do not have a stellar reputation for 
"reliability" or build quality. That said, the M3 scores high, followed 
relatively closely by the MY. The two share 80% of their components.

              If you drill down on the reliability complaints, it is often to 
do with niggling little things like door handles and retracting rear view 
mirrors and the like. The MX is horrible for the X-wing doors. There are also 
on-and-off issues with build quality (except for the ones made in China). They 
have been getting steadily better, and the really new ones I've seen look 
almost perfect WRT fit and finish.



bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>On 5/26/2022 10:11 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote:

                Is this coming from a Tesla owner?  

                Tesla owners I know don’t say anything bad about the car or 
company.  

                From: Ryan Ray 
                Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2022 10:45 AM
                To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

                Are you not concerned at all regarding build quality or 
longevity with a company that hasn't been forthright about existing issues, 
poor warranty experiences, and don't seem to generally care about their 
customer service or customer in general? 


                On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 5:47 PM Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                  I am starting to have second thoughts, maybe try to buy a 
used one... I have some time to cancel this order...  I am a cheap bugger.  
This might be the last car I ever buy, so maybe I do want the new one?   

                  From: Robert 
                  Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 6:28 PM
                  To: af@af.afmug.com 
                  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

                  We will be coming on the end of our Model 3 lease in 
September, which, after so many delivery date changes ( one of which would have 
been three months ago! ) corresponds to the delivery date of the Model Y.   
Getting into and out of the 3 was just too much for these knees, which are now 
being replaced.   We have really enjoyed all of the Model 3 features and I 
think the full autopilot is just another Musk Troll that fanboys are willing to 
throw money at.   I am seriously tempted to flip it, if the prices for used 
stay this high.  $20K over our price would be hard to refuse, with the likely 
reduction in lead times in the next year or so as the factories ramp up.


                  On 5/25/22 5:04 PM, Tim Hardy wrote:

                    Glad that shit is over. You’ll be happy with your Tesla, 
our Model Y is is 2 years old today and its been a great experience. The wife’s 
car and I still have the gas guzzling 911! 

                    Peace out.
                      On May 25, 2022, at 6:35 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                      Model 3  They predict Sept to December delivery.  $46K  
375 mile range I think.  I really like the cruise control.  It does lane 
keeping so I really don’t see a use for an autopilot.  

                      From: Cassidy B. Larson 
                      Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2022 4:31 PM
                      To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
                      Cc: Chuck McCown 
                      Subject: Re: [AFMUG] LENT

                      Which Tesla did you go for? What are they saying for lead 
time?




                        On May 25, 2022, at 4:28 PM, Chuck McCown via AF 
<af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

                        Sorry, I started it.  

                        Sometimes it is amusing to watch the Jaime and Steve 
show.  Ken and Lewis used to join in too but they couldn’t take it anymore.  
But we do have the OT in the subject line so you can filter this kind of crap 
out.  

                        But yeah, I think we have all vented now, and trolled 
the guys that need trolling.  Steve and Jaime got to make their hyperbolic 
comments.  

                        So it is now dead until Lent is over.  Next year’s lent.

                        BTW everyone, I ordered a Tesla.  My 4th Leaf lease is 
coming due in July so I took the leap.  Did a test drive today and really loved 
it.  I loved the last 10 years of Leafs too but man this is a quantum leap of 
enjoyment.  


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