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Cameron

On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 4:17 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote:

> Not a new version but a whole new other report in addition to 477 I think.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 21, 2022, at 2:39 PM, Jason McKemie <
> j.mcke...@veloxinetbroadband.com> wrote:
>
> 
> I haven't been reading up on this, is this the new form 477 replacement
> with increased requirements?
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 2:51 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> “Internet access”.  If I am strictly a layer 2 pipe providing transport -
>> only then I am not a provider of internet.  If someone coincidentally
>> connects it to layer 3 things... well then that is outside of my control.
>>
>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2022 1:41 PM
>> *To:* Chuck McCown
>> *Cc:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BDC
>>
>> >Facilities-based providers of fixed and mobile broadband internet access
>> who have one or more end user connections in service on June 30, 2022
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 3:35 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> wrote:
>>
>>> But what types of business does it apply to?  I am sure that I can find
>>> a loophole.  Like I deliver virtual ice cream via ethernet so it should not
>>> apply to me.
>>>
>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2022 12:47 PM
>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BDC
>>>
>>> Ethernet/GPON doesn't matter.  It's copper versus optical delivery. :)
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jul 21, 2022 at 11:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wonder if I can get away with being an ethernet service provider with
>>>> free access to the internet thrown in...
>>>>
>>>> *From:* Josh Luthman
>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, July 21, 2022 8:33 AM
>>>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] BDC
>>>>
>>>> WISPA is absolutely fighting this.  We absolutely did not want this.
>>>> There's way more opposition than WISPA has resources, but we still did get
>>>> some wins.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 11:12 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm sure wispa is out there looking out for us
>>>>> That is sarcasm
>>>>> Wispa isnt what itwas when it lived in this neighborhood
>>>>> I feel we all need to watch brokeback mountain to prepare what's coming
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 20, 2022, 6:16 PM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Perhaps.  I am sure there will be things filed about this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* Brian Webster
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 4:46 PM
>>>>>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
>>>>>> *Cc:* 'Chuck McCown'
>>>>>> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] BDC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keep in mind that is a temp fix and only good for the next 18 months.
>>>>>> Then the full PE cert is required.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Brian Webster
>>>>>>
>>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Chuck
>>>>>> McCown via AF
>>>>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 20, 2022 5:10 PM
>>>>>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com
>>>>>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown
>>>>>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] BDC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Starting to look into what I have to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just read the certification requirements.  This is the language of
>>>>>> the alternate, non PE, non degreed engineer certifier:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (ii) specialized training relevant to broadband network engineering
>>>>>> and design, deployment, and/or performance, and at least ten years of
>>>>>> relevant experience in broadband network engineering, design, and/or
>>>>>> performance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I am guessing everyone on this list fits this set of qualifications.
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