If separating children from their parents (albeit at the border) with no intention of ever allowing them to be reunited isn't evil, I may not understand the word's meaning.
On Tue, Oct 11, 2022 at 10:57 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > Yes, indeed, look at the vaccination rates between the right and left. > > 69% of our nation is now fully vaxxed two shots or more and 80% have > received at least one shot. > > So if you figure 100% of liberals are vaxed accounting for 50% of those > vaxxed, that leaves the 30% of the total for the conservatives which would > be 60% of the conservatives. And that means all libs were vaxed. Libs not > vaxed add to that 60% number. In polls separating blues and red vax rates > there was only 10% difference between them. So probably 65-70% of > conservatives have received at least one shot. That is not a large > percentage of anti vax to me. This is old, from one year ago: > [image: image] > > I do believe there is a concerted effort by fringe elements to introduce > subjects to elementary students that have no place in public schools. > Especially that fringe group that is attracted to children. To even talk > about things like that plant ideas in the heads of kids. So yes, a long > play grooming effort would be an apt moniker for such attempts. They are > rare but they are happening. One of my daughters teaches jr high science. > She is forced to help kids that want to transition and she is prevented > from telling parents by the school district. > > In any event, fringe is what 5th std deviation? 4th? 3rd? Anti vaxers > are probably second deviation. So, yeah, not really fringe but in a > minority. I don’t get them at all. They are all about latent side effects > that eventually will kill and the experimental nature of the vaccine. Hey, > all vaccines are experimental and have side effects. Wonder what they say > when an MRNA compound created by a computer cures their cancer someday... > I have a good friend, anti vax to the max, he has long covid and is about > dead from it. Has had it for most of the year. Still and anti vaxxer and > denying he actually has covid. > > I don’t consider Trump evil, just blinded by his own megalomania and > stupid enough to enjoy the attention of sycophants. He seems incapable of > critical thinking. But hey, he is a TV personality, a showman, PT Barnum. > Who knows what he really thinks. He plays for the ratings. > > He did do some good things. None of which will ever get play on MSNBC or > Huffpo. > > > > > *From:* Darin Steffl > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 11, 2022 9:04 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Cc:* Chuck McCown > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political > > Chuck, > > The craziest conspiracy theories are probably believed by a small number > of people, sure. But larger conspiracies like the covid vaccine will kill > you is believed by a much larger percentage of Republicans. Just look at > vaccine rates between the right and left. Many also believe rumors that all > kids are being groomed in schools, there's litter boxes for kids that > identify as a furry, that schools are teaching kids how to be gay, and > more. I've talked to enough anti-vaxxers that they're not the fringe > anymore. > > I live in rural MN and there's some people that have "fu*k Biden" flags or > "trump won" flags up. A farmer also painted some hay bales that say trump > won or "keep your guns, rights, and God". People flying an American flag > with a trump flag right underneath. What they can't see is how un-American > that is. I can't wait for the day that he passes away and these people see > how much of an evil person he is. > > I would say that at least a majority of people who still support trump are > as low as the sewer trash I'm seeing interviewed. Normally good people have > been indoctrinated into the cult when you actually see them talk about > trump. > > On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 8:21 AM Chuck McCown via AF <af@af.afmug.com> wrote: > >> Very few trump supporters can ce characterized as below. You are >> sampling the sewage concentrate distilled down be the left. >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Oct 11, 2022, at 12:48 AM, Darin Steffl <darin.ste...@mnwifi.com> >> wrote: >> >> >> Rory, >> >> How can anyone say trump loves this country? He hates or is indifferent >> to most everyone in it. He's a narcissist that ONLY cares about himself. He >> doesn't care about you, me, or anyone that disagrees with him. >> >> He's tossed aside and stuck his mob of cult followers on anyone who >> disobeys him, including people who work for him in office and during >> campaigns. One mistake and he tells everyone you're worthless or against >> him, then the targets of his hate start receiving death threats from his >> followers. He's the least loyal person in office. >> >> The people still going to his rallies are mindless sheep. I've watched >> dozens of interviews and the conspiracies people share are insane. JFK Jr >> is still alive, Biden is really Obama with a mask on, 5G is mind control, >> microchips in vaccines, etc. Their IQ levels are lower than low. Anyone >> with a brain sees through trump's lies. I hope his supporters snap out of >> the hypnosis soon. >> >> You're not supposed to worship politicians. I voted for Biden because >> he's a decent human being but I don't make him my entire personality like >> trumpers do. I have no merchandise, I don't think he was sent by God, I >> don't praise him or think he's perfect, I disagree with some things like a >> normal person should. >> >> 2024 better offer us some better choices than Biden/Trump. >> >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2022, 12:26 AM Rory Conaway <r...@triadwireless.net> >> wrote: >> >>> But you can’t say he doesn’t love this country and did some great things >>> for it 😊. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Rory >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Monday, October 10, 2022 8:31 PM >>> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Zero loyalty is a primary feature of Trump. He would toss his mother >>> under the bus. I have heard AOC say some anti demo stuff. Not much. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> >>> >>> On Oct 10, 2022, at 9:19 PM, Robert <i...@avantwireless.com> wrote: >>> >>> the way that the trump cult vilifies any other position in the >>> _republican_ party is what sets them apart. Does AOC vilify Biden? >>> >>> On 10/10/22 9:25 AM, Darin Steffl wrote: >>> >>> The hypocrites on the right LOVE Elon Musk because they think he'll >>> reinstate Trump if he buys Twitter but they also HATE EV's with a passion. >>> There's plenty of misinformation out there. I have driven a Tesla as my >>> daily for 4 years. I had the Model 3 first and now I have the refreshed >>> 2022 Model S and love both. >>> >>> >>> >>> If you ever want to laugh and cry at some people that have the lowest >>> IQs in America and who are attending Trump rallies, search "Jordan Klepper >>> trump" on youtube and watch some clips here. It's sad to see how "poorly >>> educated" some are. Anyone still supporting him today is part of the cult. >>> You can be Republican but not support Trump but anyone else is far gone off >>> the deep end. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 11:07 AM Carl Peterson < >>> cpeter...@portnetworks.com> wrote: >>> >>> My thoughts, and they really are just thoughts on why there is a large >>> anti-EV contingent on the right: >>> >>> >>> >>> - A lot of hot button "culture war" issues are really being pushed by >>> groups with an economic interest in an issue. In this case it is fossil >>> fuel energy which is a trillion dollar industry. The world is moving >>> towards EVs a whole lot faster than a lot in the industry expected. It >>> isn't surprising that wrenches are thrown into the works whenever >>> possible. >>> >>> >>> >>> - Most current EVs are expensive. Money and liberals are more >>> concentrated in urban areas. It is easy to believe FUD, funded by above, >>> when it is targeted at a group that is different form you. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Oct 10, 2022 at 8:32 AM <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Well the original description was “what is important to be taught at >>> school”. In that context, the chart made no sense at all. >>> >>> If 78% of liberal democrats believe too little time is spent on racial >>> issues in school then that does make sense. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 4:45 PM >>> *To:* dmmoff...@gmail.com; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' < >>> af@af.afmug.com> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> I left out an important detail, that graphic was the “too little” >>> response. >>> >>> Full article can be found in today’s Deseret News. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Chuck McCown via AF >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2022 1:00 PM >>> >>> *To:* dmmoff...@gmail.com ; 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> >>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> The question was as follows: >>> >>> >>> >>> “Do you think schools today spend too much, the right amount or too >>> little time teaching about the following topics:” >>> >>> >>> >>> I don’t consider that an ultra inflammatory question. >>> >>> The source is as follows: >>> >>> The American Family Survey 2022. It conducted online to a match sample >>> on gender, race, age and education Aug. 8-15, 2022. The sample size is >>> 3,000 and the overall margin of error is +- 1.9%. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> There is an ultra liberal college up near Olympia Wa. Evergreen State >>> College. They actually have a faction that teaches that you cannot trust >>> science because it teaches concepts that are counter to postmodernism. The >>> extreme left has embraced a fiction that does not stand up to scientific >>> scrutiny. So the extreme left and the extreme right both don’t trust >>> science, but for different reasons. >>> >>> >>> >>> So an ultra liberal might also say, we reject the science of statistics >>> and samples and surveys because they just make up imaginary numbers... >>> right [image: image001.png]‘' >>> >>> >>> >>> In other words, if you don’t believe the results of a survey (or an >>> election, which really is also a survey) you just reject it out of hand, >>> don’t believe it, it is flawed... ??? >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* dmmoff...@gmail.com >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 7, 2022 11:57 AM >>> >>> *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' >>> >>> *Cc:* 'Chuck McCown' >>> >>> *Subject:* RE: [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Interesting. >>> >>> >>> >>> I would think nearly 99% of people would think “Math” and “Science” >>> should be taught in school, so there must be some kind of relative ranking >>> to come up with those percentages. I don’t believe for a minute that only >>> a bare majority of any political party thinks science is important. >>> >>> >>> >>> I’d also guess there was some colorful to the phrasing of the survey >>> questions. If they asked “Should students be taught to respect people of >>> all races” the percentages would be high across the board. You’d have to >>> phrase it in some inflammatory way to get that spread. >>> >>> >>> >>> Anyway it’s cute, but I have questions about the methodology used to >>> come up with those numbers. I wonder if the methodology is “let’s make up >>> an imaginary number”. >>> >>> >>> >>> -Adam >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Chuck McCown via AF >>> *Sent:* Friday, October 07, 2022 12:03 PM >>> *To:* af@af.afmug.com >>> *Cc:* Chuck McCown <ch...@go-mtc.com> >>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Political >>> >>> >>> >>> Been too quiet around here. Thought I would try to ignite another >>> brushfire. >>> >>> >>> >>> This graphic explains America and what is wrong with it. >>> >>> Asked of all Americans what is important to be taught at school. >>> >>> >>> >>> [image: image002.png] >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> Darin Steffl >>> >>> Minnesota WiFi >>> >>> www.mnwifi.com >>> >>> 507-634-WiFi >>> >>> Like us on Facebook <http://www.facebook.com/minnesotawifi> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> This email was scanned by Bitdefender >>> -- >>> AF mailing list >>> AF@af.afmug.com >>> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >>> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> [image: image001.png] >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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