I believe they make treatments to reduce the "staleness" of stored diesel. 
You'll also be burning some during your regularly scheduled load tests as well, 
right? *nudge* ;-) 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Chuck McCown via Af" <af@afmug.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 8:28:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator question 

I dislike diesel due to the inevitable mess and the fact it goes stale, has 
cold weather issues etc. 
If the disaster is bad enough to shut off the NG pipes, I think I don't want 
to be at work. 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Rex-List Account via Af 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 5:32 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Generator question 

Just to throw another curve into your thinking - what is your reasoning on 
the generator? Disaster recovery? Frequent power outages due to storms and 
such? 
As a thirty plus year vet at a phone company and a twenty five plus year vet 
on the fire department let me give you this to ponder. If it is for frequent 
power outages 
due to electrical storms, ice, and/or poor power lines then NG is fine. 
However it has been my experience that in disaster scenarios like 
earthquakes (ok I haven't actually 
seen this one) severe storms/tornadoes (I have seen way too many of these) 
then one of the first things the fire department does is shut down the 
natural gas pipelines. 
Too many houses destroyed and the possibilities of way too many leaks. I 
personally would go with diesel fuel. Almost always available - can be 
easily trucked in. LP can be 
hard to source and price fluctuates in the winter. There is always a farmer 
or construction company around with diesel. NG is defiantly more convenient, 
but in a true disaster 
situation it may not be available. Just my two cents worth. 

Rex 

-----Original Message----- 
From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber 
Broadcasting) via Af 
Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2014 4:17 PM 
To: Animal Farm 
Subject: [AFMUG] Generator question 

So I have a unique situation at our office. We're looking at a Generac 
QuietSource 22 or 30kW running on NG. I'm not dead set on that, but those 
are very nice and quiet 1800RPM. And the problem is, our building is really 
old and is split in half with two separate 240 services coming in. And I do 
have an old empty 1-1/4" conduit between the two utility closets. The two 
services is actually nice because a lot of times, one side will have power 
when the other doesn't. One comes from the north, the other from the south. 

There's no way we can rewire and combine everything into one service feed. 
I'm trying to wrap my mind around how to do something like two auto-transfer 
switches on one generator. I have critical stuff to run on both sides. 
Probably need a qualified electrician or engineer, but I thought I'd ask 
here for suggestions before we go down that road and pay someone to come up 
with something that I most likely wouldn't like. 


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