All I know is whatever these companies are doing is definitely working.  I
can't find a single movie to pirate online.  Definitely can't find mp4
videos of Bluray rips that are a roughly 2 GBs and work with my
Chromecast/Xbox/TV.


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 2:21 PM, Chuck Hogg via Af <af@afmug.com> wrote:

> Some variation of FRAPS if I remember correctly..
>
> Regards,
> Chuck
>
> On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Chris Wright via Af <af@afmug.com>
> wrote:
>
>> It isn’t. I fondly recall the first pirated blu-ray discs (before the
>> encryption keys were leaked) were copied by script kiddies who had the
>> playback computer pause and print-screen the video frame-by-frame.
>>
>>
>>
>> Chris Wright
>>
>> Velociter Wireless <http://www.velociter.net/>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Nate Burke via Af
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 8:35 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>> streaming 4K now.
>>
>>
>>
>> I've always thought that all this hype of digital encryption and copy
>> protection was a little lacking.  Ultimately it's still an analog medium
>> (you viewing the picture) so it could always be 'copied' at that level.
>> Interpret the signal passed to the actual LCD Panel, "Pixel 1342x975
>> displaying color E0FFFF at timestamp 58:44:13.221"  Maybe I'm naive, but it
>> doesn't seem like it should be that hard.....
>>
>> On 12/9/2014 10:18 PM, Jason McKemie via Af wrote:
>>
>> I'd think if someone could figure out a way to get the movies from RAM,
>> they could also figure out a way to capture them from a stream.
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 8:59 PM, Travis Johnson via Af <af@afmug.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Because then people could "save" the movies in RAM, and someone would
>> figure out a way to be able to download them and put them on the Internet
>> for free.
>>
>> It's a licensing issue... that's why "streaming" is OK.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 12/9/2014 7:00 PM, Bill Prince via Af wrote:
>>
>> That 187MB translates to only about 11.25 GB per hour.  Why not stick in
>> a 32GB memory and be done?  That would be almost 3 hours of buffer.
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> bp
>>
>> <part {dash} 15 {at} SkylineBroadbandService {dot} com>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/9/2014 4:50 PM, Travis Johnson via Af wrote:
>>
>> It's really too bad that the devices that support all these streaming
>> services can't have a larger buffer. I'm sure it's part of their licensing
>> deals, but if they could buffer 60 seconds of stream (at any quality), they
>> would have much fewer support calls for streaming issues, etc.
>>
>> Using Netflix's 25Mbps for 4k, that works out to 187.5MB of storage
>> space. At current RAM prices, you can buy a 256MB module for $15 full
>> retail... so places like Samsung can probably buy them in quantity for less
>> than $2. Seems like it would be worth it to pay an extra $10 for a
>> TV/DVD/PS4/Wii-U device that could handle 60 seconds of video.
>>
>> Travis
>>
>> On 12/9/2014 5:34 PM, Sterling Jacobson via Af wrote:
>>
>> That’s pretty cool.
>>
>>
>>
>> You can do 4k direct from Youtube.
>>
>>
>>
>> Several of the ones I’ve tested are sustained around 20-30Mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> But on my network it tends to burst to 90Mbps then sit around for a
>> while, then burst back to 90Mbps.
>>
>>
>>
>> I think the 4k will require a lot of optimizations before it works on the
>> built in TV’s.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Jerry Richardson via Af
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 5:12 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon
>> streaming 4K now.
>>
>>
>>
>> Lovely
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com <af-boun...@afmug.com>] *On
>> Behalf Of *Ryan Ghering via Af
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 09, 2014 3:38 PM
>> *To:* af@afmug.com
>> *Subject:* [AFMUG] Well there goes all our bandwidth. Amazon streaming
>> 4K now.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.cnet.com/news/amazon-starts-4k-uhd-streams/
>>
>>
>>
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