What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better?
On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> wrote: > compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte > and larger...it's a curve. > > Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be > slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' > during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size > dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... > > -Jon > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote: > > That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater > throughput? > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 > Direct: 937-552-2343 > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet >> was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP >> throughput that you can expect. >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote: >> >>> It’s really 60! >>> >>> >>> >>> *60 MHz * >>> >>> *CH* >>> >>> *N(* >>> >>> *G(* >>> >>> 1 >>> >>> 5960.0250 >>> >>> 6212.0650 >>> >>> 2 >>> >>> 6019.3250 >>> >>> 6271.3650 >>> >>> 3 >>> >>> 6078.6250 >>> >>> 6330.6650 >>> >>> 4 >>> >>> 6137.9250 >>> >>> 6389.9650 >>> >>> >>> >>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. >>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on >>> the orthogonal polarization. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>> >>> >>> >>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? >>> >>> >>> >>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel >>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 >>> GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna >>> rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you >>> enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is >>> subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you >>> can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>> >>> >>> >>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 >>> GHz... IIRC. >>> >>> >>> >>> ----- >>> Mike Hammett >>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>> http://www.ics-il.com >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> >>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>> *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>> >>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel >>> widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist >>> in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need >>> to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that >>> does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe >>> having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>> >>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM >>> >>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>> >>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>> >>> >>> >>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! >>> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> 11 ghz integra >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Gino A. Villarini >>> >>> President >>> >>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>> >>> www.aeronetpr.com >>> >>> @aeronetpr >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM >>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>> >>> >>> >>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz >>> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? >>> >>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>> >>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the >>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much >>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking >>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are >>> my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >
