IP20C HP. Get a new FCC license :) You'll have another polarity to use later or in another direction.
Jon Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 16, 2015, at 4:48 PM, TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > > What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or > 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? > >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> >> wrote: >> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at 256byte >> and larger...it's a curve. >> >> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be >> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' >> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size >> dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... >> >> -Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater >>> throughput? >>> >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet >>>> was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP >>>> throughput that you can expect. >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> wrote: >>>>> It’s really 60! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 60 MHz >>>>> >>>>> CH >>>>> >>>>> N( >>>>> >>>>> G( >>>>> >>>>> 1 >>>>> >>>>> 5960.0250 >>>>> >>>>> 6212.0650 >>>>> >>>>> 2 >>>>> >>>>> 6019.3250 >>>>> >>>>> 6271.3650 >>>>> >>>>> 3 >>>>> >>>>> 6078.6250 >>>>> >>>>> 6330.6650 >>>>> >>>>> 4 >>>>> >>>>> 6137.9250 >>>>> >>>>> 6389.9650 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. >>>>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on >>>>> the orthogonal polarization. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel >>>>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in >>>>> 6 GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna >>>>> rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you >>>>> enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is >>>>> subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what >>>>> you can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: Mike Hammett >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM >>>>> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 >>>>> GHz... IIRC. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ----- >>>>> Mike Hammett >>>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel >>>>> widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist >>>>> in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you >>>>> need to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a >>>>> radio that does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other >>>>> than maybe having consistent equipment across your network to simplify >>>>> sparing. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: TJ Trout >>>>> >>>>> Sent: Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM >>>>> >>>>> To: af@afmug.com >>>>> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! >>>>> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to >>>>> go? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> 11 ghz integra >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>>> >>>>> President >>>>> >>>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>>> >>>>> www.aeronetpr.com >>>>> >>>>> @aeronetpr >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> From: TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>>> Reply-To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Date: Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM >>>>> To: "af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz >>>>> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the >>>>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much >>>>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking >>>>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are >>>>> my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ? >>>>> >