Are you buying everything new? Ask SAF what bands work with your proposed link. Consider dish size.
Now with possible bands, see what are available from a frequency coordinator. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Jan 16, 2015 4:48 PM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: > What is my least expensive option for getting more bandwidth in 6ghz or > 11ghz ? Right now I have 366mbps (56mhz 256qam) would like double or better? > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:03 PM, Jon Langeler <jon-ispli...@michwave.net> > wrote: > >> compression yields a lot at 64byte packet, but yields much less at >> 256byte and larger...it's a curve. >> >> Also if your upgrading a long 5GHz link with 6Ghz, you'll probably be >> slightly better off even if the calcs say 'low uptime'. 11GHz will 'swing' >> during rains more than 6GHz obviously so the higher gain from the same size >> dishes helps there. Licensing a wide single polarity is always cheapest... >> >> -Jon >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Jan 16, 2015, at 3:13 PM, Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >> That sounds backwards. Why would smaller packets net you greater >> throughput? >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 3:10 PM, Jeremy <jeremysmi...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It's really 60. Ours does 1.4Gbps, 700Mbps full duplex (if every packet >>> was a VoIP packet)...500Mbps FDX is a more realistic real-world TCP >>> throughput that you can expect. >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 1:07 PM, Hardy, Tim <tha...@comsearch.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It’s really 60! >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *60 MHz * >>>> >>>> *CH* >>>> >>>> *N(* >>>> >>>> *G(* >>>> >>>> 1 >>>> >>>> 5960.0250 >>>> >>>> 6212.0650 >>>> >>>> 2 >>>> >>>> 6019.3250 >>>> >>>> 6271.3650 >>>> >>>> 3 >>>> >>>> 6078.6250 >>>> >>>> 6330.6650 >>>> >>>> 4 >>>> >>>> 6137.9250 >>>> >>>> 6389.9650 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> As far as XPIC on 30 MHz vs. 60 MHz it all depends on the environment. >>>> If x-pol is needed to clear a channel, it isn’t going to be available on >>>> the orthogonal polarization. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Af [mailto:af-boun...@afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 2:59 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In 6 GHz, is 60 really 60, or is it 30+30 contiguous? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I’m thinking it might be easier to do XPIC on the same 30 MHz channel >>>> than to find 60 MHz of available spectrum, but I haven’t done anything in 6 >>>> GHz, mainly because of antenna size. Yes the FCC did relax the antenna >>>> rules to allow down to a 3 ft dish, but realistically that won’t give you >>>> enough gain unless it’s a short link, especially given that 6 GHz is >>>> subject to multipath fades. So bottom line I haven’t kept up with what you >>>> can do in 6 GHz, so I could easily be wrong or behind the times. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:24 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 30 MHz in the 7 GHz band, 30 MHz in some 6 GHz, 60 MHz in the rest of 6 >>>> GHz... IIRC. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- >>>> Mike Hammett >>>> Intelligent Computing Solutions >>>> http://www.ics-il.com >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> >>>> *From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> >>>> *To: *af@afmug.com >>>> *Sent: *Friday, January 16, 2015 1:18:19 PM >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>> >>>> I would first talk to your frequency coordinator about what FCC channel >>>> widths can be licensed in what bands. I’m not sure 40 MHz channels exist >>>> in 6 GHz, and I believe you’ll find an 80 MHz channel width means you need >>>> to license 2 adjacent channels. There is no benefit to having a radio that >>>> does 80 MHz channels if that’s not what you license, other than maybe >>>> having consistent equipment across your network to simplify sparing. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From:* TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, January 16, 2015 1:05 PM >>>> >>>> *To:* af@afmug.com >>>> >>>> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 11ghz integra doesn't exist, and when it does in april it's just 60mhz! >>>> Should I even be considering a 60mhz radio? Seems like 80 is the way to go? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Jan 16, 2015 at 11:02 AM, Gino Villarini <g...@aeronetpr.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> 11 ghz integra >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Gino A. Villarini >>>> >>>> President >>>> >>>> Aeronet Wireless Broadband Corp. >>>> >>>> www.aeronetpr.com >>>> >>>> @aeronetpr >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> *From: *TJ Trout <t...@voltbb.com> >>>> *Reply-To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> *Date: *Friday, January 16, 2015 at 2:57 PM >>>> *To: *"af@afmug.com" <af@afmug.com> >>>> *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] 6 or 11ghz best option for higher capacity ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> I guess what I'm interested in is what is the cheapest 6 or 11ghz 80mhz >>>> radio in terms of bits/hz or should I just use the lumina in 2+0? >>>> >>>> On Jan 16, 2015 10:54 AM, "TJ Trout" <t...@voltbb.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> So I have a lumina on 11ghz 56mhz that I need to upgrade, what is the >>>> most economical option for more capacity ? Saf doesn't really have much >>>> besides 2+0 right now (maybe that's my best option?) So I was thinking >>>> about trying another brand something with maybe 80mhz channels ? What are >>>> my options that won't cost an arm and a leg ? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> >
