Do you know what the improvement over a bare sm? 16 to 18 db? Cambium says their dish will do 25 db over a bare sm. Would you trust that number?

Josh Luthman wrote:

16 or 18?

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On Mar 13, 2015 9:56 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    What is the gain on those panels?

    Josh Luthman wrote:


        Sometime...but ITelite has panels now so...

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        On Mar 13, 2015 9:19 PM, "Jay Weekley"
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            I'm holding my breath for the 2.4 connectorized dish
        Cambium is
            releasing. Isn't that this month?

            Josh Luthman wrote:


                Remote is coming.

                Are you doing epmp on both bands on the dual band itelite?
                Have you checked signal to make sure 2g carries
        farther than 5g?

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                On Mar 13, 2015 9:11 PM, "Paul McCall"
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        wrote:

                    We have mostly been using the Cambium sectors, but
        just
                started
                    using the ITElite model that does both 2.4 and 5
        Ghz on same
                    sector.  A/B comparison was pretty much identical
        compared to
                    Cambium on the 2.4 Ghz side and slightly stronger
        on the 5
                Ghz side.

                    eDetect has its shortcomings.   It only picks up
        801.11
                devices on
                    same frequency.    ePMP doesn’t have remote
        spectrum analyzer
                    which would be helpful.   (unless it was just added)

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                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?

                    Are you using the suggested sectors, Paul?

                    Should eDetect see TDD and wifi devices?

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                    On Mar 13, 2015 8:45 PM, "Paul McCall"
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                    We have about 250 2.4 SMs deployed with pretty good
                success.     Where we have had some issues are...

                    1) direct competitor interference in the band. It does
                "OK" but
                    FSK seemed  to do much better at it, but probably
        because
                of the
                    lesser SNR requirements as much as the
        modulation.  One
                tower out
                    of 10 has this issue for us.
                    2) highly concentrated neighborhoods where the
        neighbors house
                    with his wiz-bang overkill home router causes gried.

                    TIPS:
                    1) Use Mikrotik routers EVERYWHERE, EVERY
        customer... to
                control
                    the 2.4 "local" environment as much as possible,
        scan for
                problems
                    etc.
                    2) Be conscious about what Frequency boxes are
        checked in the
                    SMs.  Obviously avoid the frequency you have the
        router at.
                            If you don't have a second AP that has a
        good enough
                    signal (-65 or less) and the customer is NOT on
        the edge of a
                    sector, you can keep the second frequency checked
                            If you have a poor "second AP" signal OR
        you have a
                    customer installed on a sector edge, check ONLY
        the one
                frequency
                    of the "good" (proper angled) AP

                    Doing this, your eDedects will be happy, and you give
                yourself the
                    best chance for success.  We actually are writing
        some SNMP
                    backend stuff to help point out problems in all these
                areas, and
                    proactively "fix" them

                    Paul

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                    Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?

                    Haven't even bought any. We're thinking about not even
                buying any more
                    2.4 450. It's just too noisy. All the wifi in
        neighborhoods,
                    customer's router interfering with the SM, etc. It's
                pretty much
                    as horrible as 900 these days.

                    And if we don't get to keep 5.7 ISM.. things are
        gonna get
                shitty.
                    3GHz is the only place to go, so we're gonna be
        doing a
                bunch more
                    of it this year.

                    On 3/13/2015 6:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
                    > I've heard of several networks having problems
        with it
                for one
                    reason
                    > or another, generally the inability to coexist with
                FSK.  Does
                    any one
                    > network have some success with them?
                    >
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