Assuming Cambium makes a 2.4ghz dish the same size as the 5ghz force110,
I'd expect it to be about 18dbi... which isn't going to be too much
different than those panels.

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 9:43 PM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Uh 25dbi in 5 ghz with a connectorized radio.
>
> I'm talking 16 dbi on a connectorized 2g radio.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Mar 13, 2015 10:16 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Do you know what the improvement over a bare sm? 16 to 18 db? Cambium
>> says their dish will do 25 db over a bare sm. Would you trust that number?
>>
>> Josh Luthman wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> 16 or 18?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2015 9:56 PM, "Jay Weekley" <[email protected]
>>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     What is the gain on those panels?
>>>
>>>     Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Sometime...but ITelite has panels now so...
>>>
>>>         Josh Luthman
>>>         Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>         Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>         1100 Wayne St
>>>         Suite 1337
>>>         Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>         On Mar 13, 2015 9:19 PM, "Jay Weekley"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             I'm holding my breath for the 2.4 connectorized dish
>>>         Cambium is
>>>             releasing. Isn't that this month?
>>>
>>>             Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>                 Remote is coming.
>>>
>>>                 Are you doing epmp on both bands on the dual band
>>> itelite?
>>>                 Have you checked signal to make sure 2g carries
>>>         farther than 5g?
>>>
>>>                 Josh Luthman
>>>                 Office: 937-552-2340u
>>>                 Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>         <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>>
>>>                 1100 Wayne St
>>>                 Suite 1337
>>>                 Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>                 On Mar 13, 2015 9:11 PM, "Paul McCall"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>>
>>>         wrote:
>>>
>>>                     We have mostly been using the Cambium sectors, but
>>>         just
>>>                 started
>>>                     using the ITElite model that does both 2.4 and 5
>>>         Ghz on same
>>>                     sector.  A/B comparison was pretty much identical
>>>         compared to
>>>                     Cambium on the 2.4 Ghz side and slightly stronger
>>>         on the 5
>>>                 Ghz side.
>>>
>>>                     eDetect has its shortcomings.   It only picks up
>>>         801.11
>>>                 devices on
>>>                     same frequency.    ePMP doesn’t have remote
>>>         spectrum analyzer
>>>                     which would be helpful.   (unless it was just added)
>>>
>>>                     *From:*Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>>] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
>>>                     *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:04 PM
>>>                     *To:* [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>                     *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?
>>>
>>>                     Are you using the suggested sectors, Paul?
>>>
>>>                     Should eDetect see TDD and wifi devices?
>>>
>>>                     Josh Luthman
>>>                     Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>         <tel:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>> <tel:937-552-2340
>>>         <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>                 <tel:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>>>
>>>                     Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>         <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>> <tel:937-552-2343
>>>         <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>                 <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>>>
>>>                     1100 Wayne St
>>>                     Suite 1337
>>>                     Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>                     On Mar 13, 2015 8:45 PM, "Paul McCall"
>>>         <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>                     We have about 250 2.4 SMs deployed with pretty good
>>>                 success.     Where we have had some issues are...
>>>
>>>                     1) direct competitor interference in the band. It
>>> does
>>>                 "OK" but
>>>                     FSK seemed  to do much better at it, but probably
>>>         because
>>>                 of the
>>>                     lesser SNR requirements as much as the
>>>         modulation.  One
>>>                 tower out
>>>                     of 10 has this issue for us.
>>>                     2) highly concentrated neighborhoods where the
>>>         neighbors house
>>>                     with his wiz-bang overkill home router causes gried.
>>>
>>>                     TIPS:
>>>                     1) Use Mikrotik routers EVERYWHERE, EVERY
>>>         customer... to
>>>                 control
>>>                     the 2.4 "local" environment as much as possible,
>>>         scan for
>>>                 problems
>>>                     etc.
>>>                     2) Be conscious about what Frequency boxes are
>>>         checked in the
>>>                     SMs.  Obviously avoid the frequency you have the
>>>         router at.
>>>                             If you don't have a second AP that has a
>>>         good enough
>>>                     signal (-65 or less) and the customer is NOT on
>>>         the edge of a
>>>                     sector, you can keep the second frequency checked
>>>                             If you have a poor "second AP" signal OR
>>>         you have a
>>>                     customer installed on a sector edge, check ONLY
>>>         the one
>>>                 frequency
>>>                     of the "good" (proper angled) AP
>>>
>>>                     Doing this, your eDedects will be happy, and you give
>>>                 yourself the
>>>                     best chance for success.  We actually are writing
>>>         some SNMP
>>>                     backend stuff to help point out problems in all these
>>>                 areas, and
>>>                     proactively "fix" them
>>>
>>>                     Paul
>>>
>>>                     -----Original Message-----
>>>                     From: Af [mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                     <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected]
>>>         <mailto:[email protected]>>>] On Behalf Of George Skorup
>>> (Cyber
>>>                     Broadcasting)
>>>                     Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:29 PM
>>>                     To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
>>>                 <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>         <mailto:[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>>
>>>                     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?
>>>
>>>                     Haven't even bought any. We're thinking about not
>>> even
>>>                 buying any more
>>>                     2.4 450. It's just too noisy. All the wifi in
>>>         neighborhoods,
>>>                     customer's router interfering with the SM, etc. It's
>>>                 pretty much
>>>                     as horrible as 900 these days.
>>>
>>>                     And if we don't get to keep 5.7 ISM.. things are
>>>         gonna get
>>>                 shitty.
>>>                     3GHz is the only place to go, so we're gonna be
>>>         doing a
>>>                 bunch more
>>>                     of it this year.
>>>
>>>                     On 3/13/2015 6:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
>>>                     > I've heard of several networks having problems
>>>         with it
>>>                 for one
>>>                     reason
>>>                     > or another, generally the inability to coexist with
>>>                 FSK.  Does
>>>                     any one
>>>                     > network have some success with them?
>>>                     >
>>>                     > Josh Luthman
>>>                     > Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>
>>>         <tel:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340>>
>>>                 <tel:937-552-2340 <tel:937-552-2340> <tel:937-552-2340
>>>         <tel:937-552-2340>>>
>>>                     > Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>
>>>         <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343>>
>>>                 <tel:937-552-2343 <tel:937-552-2343> <tel:937-552-2343
>>>         <tel:937-552-2343>>>
>>>                     > 1100 Wayne St
>>>                     > Suite 1337
>>>                     > Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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