Yes, doing both.  2G definitely further than 5G at same signal strength.  5Ghz 
generally works well in the low -70s and 2.4 needs about -65 to work well… in 
our area

From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:17 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?


Remote is coming.

Are you doing epmp on both bands on the dual band itelite?  Have you checked 
signal to make sure 2g carries farther than 5g?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 13, 2015 9:11 PM, "Paul McCall" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have mostly been using the Cambium sectors, but just started using the 
ITElite model that does both 2.4 and 5 Ghz on same sector.  A/B comparison was 
pretty much identical compared to Cambium on the 2.4 Ghz side and slightly 
stronger on the 5 Ghz side.

eDetect has its shortcomings.   It only picks up 801.11 devices on same 
frequency.    ePMP doesn’t have remote spectrum analyzer which would be 
helpful.   (unless it was just added)


From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of Josh Luthman
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 9:04 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?


Are you using the suggested sectors, Paul?

Should eDetect see TDD and wifi devices?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 13, 2015 8:45 PM, "Paul McCall" 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
We have about 250 2.4 SMs deployed with pretty good success.  Where we have had 
some issues are...

1) direct competitor interference in the band.  It does "OK" but FSK seemed  to 
do much better at it, but probably because of the lesser SNR requirements as 
much as the modulation.  One tower out of 10 has this issue for us.
2) highly concentrated neighborhoods where the neighbors house with his 
wiz-bang overkill home router causes gried.

TIPS:
1) Use Mikrotik routers EVERYWHERE, EVERY customer... to control the 2.4 
"local" environment as much as possible, scan for problems etc.
2) Be conscious about what Frequency boxes are checked in the SMs.  Obviously 
avoid the frequency you have the router at.
        If you don't have a second AP that has a good enough signal (-65 or 
less) and the customer is NOT on the edge of a sector, you can keep the second 
frequency checked
        If you have a poor "second AP" signal OR you have a customer installed 
on a sector edge, check ONLY the one frequency of the "good" (proper angled) AP

Doing this, your eDedects will be happy, and you give yourself the best chance 
for success.  We actually are writing some SNMP backend stuff to help point out 
problems in all these areas, and proactively "fix" them

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Af [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>] On Behalf 
Of George Skorup (Cyber Broadcasting)
Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:29 PM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?

Haven't even bought any. We're thinking about not even buying any more
2.4 450. It's just too noisy. All the wifi in neighborhoods, customer's router 
interfering with the SM, etc. It's pretty much as horrible as 900 these days.

And if we don't get to keep 5.7 ISM.. things are gonna get shitty. 3GHz is the 
only place to go, so we're gonna be doing a bunch more of it this year.

On 3/13/2015 6:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> I've heard of several networks having problems with it for one reason
> or another, generally the inability to coexist with FSK.  Does any one
> network have some success with them?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340<tel:937-552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:937-552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373

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