My issue is that at a customer site I'll see 5g at -75 and 2g at -85 :(

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Mar 14, 2015 12:19 AM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote:

>  Yes, doing both.  2G definitely further than 5G at same signal
> strength.  5Ghz generally works well in the low -70s and 2.4 needs about
> -65 to work well… in our area
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:17 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?
>
>
>
> Remote is coming.
>
> Are you doing epmp on both bands on the dual band itelite?  Have you
> checked signal to make sure 2g carries farther than 5g?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 13, 2015 9:11 PM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We have mostly been using the Cambium sectors, but just started using the
> ITElite model that does both 2.4 and 5 Ghz on same sector.  A/B comparison
> was pretty much identical compared to Cambium on the 2.4 Ghz side and
> slightly stronger on the 5 Ghz side.
>
>
>
> eDetect has its shortcomings.   It only picks up 801.11 devices on same
> frequency.    ePMP doesn’t have remote spectrum analyzer which would be
> helpful.   (unless it was just added)
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* Af [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Friday, March 13, 2015 9:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?
>
>
>
> Are you using the suggested sectors, Paul?
>
> Should eDetect see TDD and wifi devices?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Mar 13, 2015 8:45 PM, "Paul McCall" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> We have about 250 2.4 SMs deployed with pretty good success.  Where we
> have had some issues are...
>
> 1) direct competitor interference in the band.  It does "OK" but FSK
> seemed  to do much better at it, but probably because of the lesser SNR
> requirements as much as the modulation.  One tower out of 10 has this issue
> for us.
> 2) highly concentrated neighborhoods where the neighbors house with his
> wiz-bang overkill home router causes gried.
>
> TIPS:
> 1) Use Mikrotik routers EVERYWHERE, EVERY customer... to control the 2.4
> "local" environment as much as possible, scan for problems etc.
> 2) Be conscious about what Frequency boxes are checked in the SMs.
> Obviously avoid the frequency you have the router at.
>         If you don't have a second AP that has a good enough signal (-65
> or less) and the customer is NOT on the edge of a sector, you can keep the
> second frequency checked
>         If you have a poor "second AP" signal OR you have a customer
> installed on a sector edge, check ONLY the one frequency of the "good"
> (proper angled) AP
>
> Doing this, your eDedects will be happy, and you give yourself the best
> chance for success.  We actually are writing some SNMP backend stuff to
> help point out problems in all these areas, and proactively "fix" them
>
> Paul
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of George Skorup (Cyber
> Broadcasting)
> Sent: Friday, March 13, 2015 8:29 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Any success with 2.4 ePMP?
>
> Haven't even bought any. We're thinking about not even buying any more
> 2.4 450. It's just too noisy. All the wifi in neighborhoods, customer's
> router interfering with the SM, etc. It's pretty much as horrible as 900
> these days.
>
> And if we don't get to keep 5.7 ISM.. things are gonna get shitty. 3GHz is
> the only place to go, so we're gonna be doing a bunch more of it this year.
>
> On 3/13/2015 6:48 PM, Josh Luthman wrote:
> > I've heard of several networks having problems with it for one reason
> > or another, generally the inability to coexist with FSK.  Does any one
> > network have some success with them?
> >
> > Josh Luthman
> > Office: 937-552-2340
> > Direct: 937-552-2343
> > 1100 Wayne St
> > Suite 1337
> > Troy, OH 45373
>

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