Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to buy a million 
units, and already had 24V at their remote small cell cabinets, or something 
like that.  The description does say carrier backhaul radio, maybe that’s a 
hint.

WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only market.  It’s 
possible this decision makes great sense and the reason isn’t apparent from 
our/your perspective.


From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

24v...  because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product. Just use 48v on 
everything! First three products use essentially 48v... .  than let's do a 
24...  because!




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Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com





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From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
To: af@afmug.com
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption value.  The data sheet 
is no help except that it says the thing uses 24V 1a POE injector.  That 
implies a maximum of 24 watts.  So less than 24 watts.  Anyone have one 
installed that has measured actual power consumption?  If they're running the 
POE at 50% duty cycle, that would suggest about 12 watts.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote:

  I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the UBNT list awhile 
back but no one seemed to notice. I intend to keep adding to it based on input 
from the community. 

  -Ty 

  On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

    Hot damn!  Who made that?!?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

      Oops let's try again. How about this chart... 

         ubnt radio comparison 
      -Ty 

      On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

        Try this chart. 


        On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

          Yes, charts are always good.  Especially if the chart would also have 
checkmarks for which U-NII bands they are currently approved for.  And what 
power they take.

          From: Ben Moore 
          Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM
          To: af@afmug.com 
          Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

          Yes, we do have too many variants.  It is being streamlined in the AC 
line with NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have multiple sizes). 

          NanoBeam = all integrated
          PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design

          It is a challenge with sku's since may sku's are needed for different 
areas of the world (i.e. some products are very popular here and not as popular 
in other parts of the world).

          Would chart help?

          On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

            Ben, you guys have too many product variants, and in some cases 
need better naming.  Like NanoBridge, NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC, 
PowerBeam AC.  I honestly don’t understand the difference between a NanoBeam 
and a PowerBeam, or why one has models by antenna gain in dB and the other by 
antenna size in mm.

            And of course the NanoStation Loco, why is it Loco?  Because it’s 
crazy small?

            Then there’s the M vs W thing.

            My head hurts.


            From: Ben Moore 
            Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

            Here you go: 

            Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP
            PTP - PTP only, airPrism
            PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism

            These are split due to the filtering used for each (maximize PTP 
and PTMP performance).  We won't split unless there is a performance reason to. 
 The cost is same either way...

            How much is the budget?  Consider AF-5X?

            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That One Guy 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:


              The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only 
connectorized units?

              What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism 
only?

              Are some of these shipping without all there guts?

              I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we 
already have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP 
parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont know 
whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT of ptp and ptmp or is 
this two things that are going to converge?

              Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is 
there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of performance? 
(future demand is a factor as well)

              Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three 
products there?
              -- 

              If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.






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