Mike, have you asked them for a voltage spec?  If it turned out to accept 
20-60V you’d probably change your mind and say that is brilliant.

From: Jeremy 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:05 AM
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

24v works way better for me.  All my sites are 24v.  I have to upconvert to 48v 
when needed.  There is no easy fix because I cannot fit two more batteries in 
my cabinet, and it would be a total rework even if I could.  So it was me and 
the ten or so that I'll buy.  Thanks UBNT!

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net> wrote:

  Everything UBNT has says carrier.




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  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





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  From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:57:46 AM 

  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line


  Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to buy a million 
units, and already had 24V at their remote small cell cabinets, or something 
like that.  The description does say carrier backhaul radio, maybe that’s a 
hint.

  WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only market.  It’s 
possible this decision makes great sense and the reason isn’t apparent from 
our/your perspective.


  From: Mike Hammett 
  Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM
  To: af@afmug.com 
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

  24v...  because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product. Just use 48v on 
everything! First three products use essentially 48v... .  than let's do a 
24...  because!




  -----
  Mike Hammett
  Intelligent Computing Solutions
  http://www.ics-il.com





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  From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
  To: af@afmug.com
  Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM
  Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

  I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption value.  The data 
sheet is no help except that it says the thing uses 24V 1a POE injector.  That 
implies a maximum of 24 watts.  So less than 24 watts.  Anyone have one 
installed that has measured actual power consumption?  If they're running the 
POE at 50% duty cycle, that would suggest about 12 watts.


bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote:

    I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the UBNT list awhile 
back but no one seemed to notice. I intend to keep adding to it based on input 
from the community. 

    -Ty 

    On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

      Hot damn!  Who made that?!?

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>

On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:

        Oops let's try again. How about this chart... 

           ubnt radio comparison 
        -Ty 

        On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling" <tyfeatherl...@gmail.com> 
wrote:

          Try this chart. 


          On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

            Yes, charts are always good.  Especially if the chart would also 
have checkmarks for which U-NII bands they are currently approved for.  And 
what power they take.

            From: Ben Moore 
            Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM
            To: af@afmug.com 
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

            Yes, we do have too many variants.  It is being streamlined in the 
AC line with NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have multiple sizes). 

            NanoBeam = all integrated
            PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design

            It is a challenge with sku's since may sku's are needed for 
different areas of the world (i.e. some products are very popular here and not 
as popular in other parts of the world).

            Would chart help?

            On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:

              Ben, you guys have too many product variants, and in some cases 
need better naming.  Like NanoBridge, NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC, 
PowerBeam AC.  I honestly don’t understand the difference between a NanoBeam 
and a PowerBeam, or why one has models by antenna gain in dB and the other by 
antenna size in mm.

              And of course the NanoStation Loco, why is it Loco?  Because it’s 
crazy small?

              Then there’s the M vs W thing.

              My head hurts.


              From: Ben Moore 
              Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM
              To: af@afmug.com 
              Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line

              Here you go: 

              Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP
              PTP - PTP only, airPrism
              PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism

              These are split due to the filtering used for each (maximize PTP 
and PTMP performance).  We won't split unless there is a performance reason to. 
 The cost is same either way...

              How much is the budget?  Consider AF-5X?

              On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That One Guy 
<thatoneguyst...@gmail.com> wrote:


                The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the 
only connectorized units?

                What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism 
only?

                Are some of these shipping without all there guts?

                I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we 
already have it connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP 
parabolics. I figure its worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont know 
whats what now, is this a permanent separation with UBNT of ptp and ptmp or is 
this two things that are going to converge?

                Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link 
is there any major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of 
performance? (future demand is a factor as well)

                Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three 
products there?
                -- 

                If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see 
your team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team.








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