Everything UBNT has says carrier. 



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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
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From: "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:57:46 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line 




Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to buy a million 
units, and already had 24V at their remote small cell cabinets, or something 
like that. The description does say carrier backhaul radio, maybe that’s a 
hint. 

WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only market. It’s possible 
this decision makes great sense and the reason isn’t apparent from our/your 
perspective. 





From: Mike Hammett 
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line 


24v... because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product. Just use 48v on 
everything! First three products use essentially 48v... . than let's do a 24... 
because! 




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Mike Hammett 
Intelligent Computing Solutions 
http://www.ics-il.com 



----- Original Message -----

From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com> 
To: af@afmug.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line 

I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption value. The data sheet 
is no help except that it says the thing uses 24V 1a POE injector. That implies 
a maximum of 24 watts. So less than 24 watts. Anyone have one installed that 
has measured actual power consumption? If they're running the POE at 50% duty 
cycle, that would suggest about 12 watts. 

bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote: 



I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the UBNT list awhile 
back but no one seemed to notice. I intend to keep adding to it based on input 
from the community. 
-Ty 
On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince" < part15...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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Hot damn! Who made that?!? 
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> 
On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote: 

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Oops let's try again. How about this chart... 
ubnt radio comparison 
-Ty 
On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling" < tyfeatherl...@gmail.com > wrote: 

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Try this chart. 

On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof" < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: 

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Yes, charts are always good. Especially if the chart would also have checkmarks 
for which U-NII bands they are currently approved for. And what power they 
take. 




From: Ben Moore 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line 


Yes, we do have too many variants. It is being streamlined in the AC line with 
NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have multiple sizes). 

NanoBeam = all integrated 
PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design 

It is a challenge with sku's since may sku's are needed for different areas of 
the world (i.e. some products are very popular here and not as popular in other 
parts of the world). 

Would chart help? 


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken Hohhof < af...@kwisp.com > wrote: 

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Ben, you guys have too many product variants, and in some cases need better 
naming. Like NanoBridge, NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC, PowerBeam AC. I 
honestly don’t understand the difference between a NanoBeam and a PowerBeam, or 
why one has models by antenna gain in dB and the other by antenna size in mm. 

And of course the NanoStation Loco, why is it Loco? Because it’s crazy small? 

Then there’s the M vs W thing. 

My head hurts. 





From: Ben Moore 
Sent: Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM 
To: af@afmug.com 
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line 


Here you go: 

Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP 
PTP - PTP only, airPrism 
PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism 

These are split due to the filtering used for each (maximize PTP and PTMP 
performance). We won't split unless there is a performance reason to. The cost 
is same either way... 

How much is the budget? Consider AF-5X? 


On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That One Guy < thatoneguyst...@gmail.com > 
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The current iteractions of the rocket AC line, these are the only connectorized 
units? 

What are the differences between lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only? 

Are some of these shipping without all there guts? 

I am looking at replacing an old shitbucket tranzeo link, we already have it 
connected to one pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot HP parabolics. I figure its 
worth checking out these AC radios, but I dont know whats what now, is this a 
permanent separation with UBNT of ptp and ptmp or is this two things that are 
going to converge? 

Other than the Ac component, for a low throughput demand link is there any 
major benefit of going to the AC over the M5 in terms of performance? (future 
demand is a factor as well) 

Also considering the epmp, goods, bads uglies between the three products there? 
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