From my basic knowledge of electronics and taking apart radios,
anything above 28-36V needs a transformer and support circuitry
instead of just a voltage regulator IC, that entails a big jump in the
price and board complexity of the power supply. The AirFiber5X's FPGA
is capable of 500mbits of OFDM, certainly that is not cheap so I think
they're trying to limit the bells and whistles to get it selling at
only $400.
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 10:25 AM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Mike, have you asked them for a voltage spec? If it turned out to
accept 20-60V you’d probably change your mind and say that is
brilliant.
*From:* Jeremy <mailto:jeremysmi...@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 10:05 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
24v works way better for me. All my sites are 24v. I have to
upconvert to 48v when needed. There is no easy fix because I
cannot fit two more batteries in my cabinet, and it would be a
total rework even if I could. So it was me and the ten or so that
I'll buy. Thanks UBNT!
On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 8:03 AM, Mike Hammett <af...@ics-il.net
<mailto:af...@ics-il.net>> wrote:
Everything UBNT has says carrier.
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*From: *"Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:57:46 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
Or, ya know, somebody might have asked for it, and wanted to
buy a million units, and already had 24V at their remote small
cell cabinets, or something like that. The description does
say carrier backhaul radio, maybe that’s a hint.
WISPs in the US are one market for Ubiquiti, not the only
market. It’s possible this decision makes great sense and the
reason isn’t apparent from our/your perspective.
*From:* Mike Hammett <mailto:af...@ics-il.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, March 22, 2015 8:03 AM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
24v... because UBNT must do something to fuck up a product.
Just use 48v on everything! First three products use
essentially 48v... . than let's do a 24... because!
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*From: *"Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com
<mailto:part15...@gmail.com>>
*To: *af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, March 21, 2015 10:18:57 AM
*Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
I notice that the AF5X does not have a power consumption
value. The data sheet is no help except that it says the thing
uses 24V 1a POE injector. That implies a maximum of 24 watts.
So less than 24 watts. Anyone have one installed that has
measured actual power consumption? If they're running the POE
at 50% duty cycle, that would suggest about 12 watts.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/21/2015 7:11 AM, Ty Featherling wrote:
I did Bill with a little help. I posted it here and ok the
UBNT list awhile back but no one seemed to notice. I
intend to keep adding to it based on input from the
community.
-Ty
On Mar 20, 2015 10:41 PM, "Bill Prince"
<part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hot damn! Who made that?!?
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 3/20/2015 8:13 PM, Ty Featherling wrote:
Oops let's try again. How about this chart...
ubnt radio comparison
<https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10BwvYDqrI4D8nmDRaNtfCeou0j2uZPMGIfXf9GB-cCc/edit?usp=drivesdk>
-Ty
On Mar 20, 2015 10:12 PM, "Ty Featherling"
<tyfeatherl...@gmail.com
<mailto:tyfeatherl...@gmail.com>> wrote:
Try this chart.
On Mar 20, 2015 6:07 PM, "Ken Hohhof"
<af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Yes, charts are always good. Especially if
the chart would also have checkmarks for
which U-NII bands they are currently
approved for. And what power they take.
*From:* Ben Moore <mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
*Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 5:51 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC ubnt line
Yes, we do have too many variants. It is
being streamlined in the AC line with
NanoBeam, Powerbeam (still will have
multiple sizes).
NanoBeam = all integrated
PowerBeam = inner feed/dish design
It is a challenge with sku's since may
sku's are needed for different areas of
the world (i.e. some products are very
popular here and not as popular in other
parts of the world).
Would chart help?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 4:43 PM, Ken
Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
<mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:
Ben, you guys have too many product
variants, and in some cases need
better naming. Like NanoBridge,
NanoBeam, PowerBeam, NanoBeam AC,
PowerBeam AC. I honestly don’t
understand the difference between a
NanoBeam and a PowerBeam, or why one
has models by antenna gain in dB and
the other by antenna size in mm.
And of course the NanoStation Loco,
why is it Loco? Because it’s crazy small?
Then there’s the M vs W thing.
My head hurts.
*From:* Ben Moore
<mailto:ben.mo...@ubnt.com>
*Sent:* Friday, March 20, 2015 4:13 PM
*To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] splain the AC
ubnt line
Here you go:
Lite - No airPrism, will do PTP and PTMP
PTP - PTP only, airPrism
PTMP - PTMP only, airPrism
These are split due to the filtering
used for each (maximize PTP and PTMP
performance). We won't split unless
there is a performance reason to. The
cost is same either way...
How much is the budget? Consider AF-5X?
On Fri, Mar 20, 2015 at 3:02 PM, That
One Guy <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:
The current iteractions of the
rocket AC line, these are the only
connectorized units?
What are the differences between
lite, ptp, and ptmp airprism only?
Are some of these shipping without
all there guts?
I am looking at replacing an old
shitbucket tranzeo link, we
already have it connected to one
pol of a set of radiowaves 2 foot
HP parabolics. I figure its worth
checking out these AC radios, but
I dont know whats what now, is
this a permanent separation with
UBNT of ptp and ptmp or is this
two things that are going to converge?
Other than the Ac component, for a
low throughput demand link is
there any major benefit of going
to the AC over the M5 in terms of
performance? (future demand is a
factor as well)
Also considering the epmp, goods,
bads uglies between the three
products there?
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