Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination.

;)

Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.com

On 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:

Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle internet with that? Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing salvation? I bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it.

On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

    Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and
    selling an idea or a product.  Leading to later in life becoming
    politicians or starting alarm companies.  But I digress.
    I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and
    2 young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know
    how to give their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed
    for dinner.
    *From:* TJ Trout <mailto:t...@voltbb.com>
    *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM
    *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
    They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good will...
    On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com
    <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>> wrote:

        But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate?  If they
        had more food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they
share with their down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors? Well, they have more Internet than they can use (how much
        Internet can you use if you don’t watch porn?)  So why waste
        the excess Internet when others are in need?  Does McDonalds
        Arctic Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving
        your uneaten fries to the homeless?
        *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
        If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast,
        they will call it “theft of service”.  Criminal theft of
        service.  Federal code specifically speaks to this. Just
        piggybacking on the same idea with the verbiage.
        TWC says:
        It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to
        assist others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law
        provides for criminal penalties and civil remedies against
        people who willfully assist others to steal cable services.
        Such assistance can take the form of distributing "pirate"
        cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others to
        make unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the
        free use of one's wireless broadband network, or assisting
        others to hack into their modems and uncap them. Federal
        statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of services offered
        over a cable system.
        And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is unwanted:
        
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/
        As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them,
        it is intended to trigger a guilty conscience.  They vow to be
        honest.  This is intended to remind themthat this is not an
        honest behavior.
        *From:* Ken Hohhof <mailto:af...@kwisp.com>
        *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
        Not for me.  I would avoid the whole theft of service
        approach.  I think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it
        sounds lame unless LDS folks really are easily scared.
        Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and
        will result in disconnection of service.  That doesn’t mean it
        is a crime.
        The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets
        anyone within range capture everything you transmit without
        encryption, allows them access to your network and router on
        the trusted side of your firewall making it much easier for
        hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law enforcement to
        blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet via
        your IP address.
        *From:* Chuck McCown <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>
        *Sent:* Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM
        *To:* af@afmug.com <mailto:af@afmug.com>
        *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
        Brett, Ken  does this wording work better?
        5)    Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead
        of purchasing service for their own house is a crime called
        “Theft of Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and
        jeopardizing your own service as well.


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