The new pope seems cool, chalk one up for the Jesuits.
From: Jaime Solorza
Sent: Wednesday, May 27, 2015 1:02 PM
To: Animal Farm
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
It was a joke...I have nothing against any religion....believe me faith has
gotten me through all kinds of issues. I believe but have questions. ..blame
it on my Jesuit education in critical thinking and life. Still pretty
Catholic but sometimes I waver....so hope I didnt ruffle any feathers. Still
explain my two hard right good friends who carry a bible in one hand and gun in
the other. Somehow the message of love thy neighbor gets lost in their
position.
Jaime Solorza
On May 27, 2015 9:36 AM, "Lewis Bergman" <lewis.berg...@gmail.com> wrote:
Getting into the middle of conversations without reading the whole chain is
dangerous but ignorance never stopped me.
enlightened - having or showing a rational, modern, and well-informed outlook.
I don't think being religious disqualifies you from being enlightened. Don't
get me wrong, I am not offended, I just differ in opinion that more
enlightenment means less religion. I know plenty of people who meet all of the
above and are additionally, quite religious.
And of course, during this discourse, if I have typed something that has
offended you I genuinely don't care.
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 10:08 AM, Jaime Solorza <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Well Utah isnt alone. Most central and east Texas is "below" the bible belt
if you know what I mean, nudge nudge...west Texas a bit more
enlightened...(ducking under my hard hat)...mid 1990s while installing antennas
on a tower for Cedar Hill ISD I radioed down ask which campus I was shooting at
..." the one next to white church steeple. ..." " ahem...I count
123456789..10 steeples just in front.." and I think they were all First
Baptist Churches! !!!
Jaime Solorza
On May 27, 2015 8:04 AM, "Chuck McCown" <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
The “Paint Your Wagon” plan just does not work.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 7:29 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
Don’t give Chuck ideas, that will become #6 in his letter.
From: Josh Luthman
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 8:05 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
LOL!
Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On May 26, 2015 9:03 PM, "Jaime Solorza" <losguyswirel...@gmail.com>
wrote:
You guys are a riot and I know God is laughing. .hell He made the
duckbill platypus...now thats funny. We had on business client install a ptp
from his business to his friends house. They went from 6 users to 15....it
showed up on cpe dhcp list and speeds slowed down. I throttled them to 1mbps
after two calls from us. He called to complain. .then threatened to cancel.
We fired him and shut down LAN port. He called me a few choice words...oh
well...next...I should have asked if I could use his wife for a few days....
Jaime Solorza
On May 26, 2015 6:30 PM, "Josh Reynolds" <j...@spitwspots.com> wrote:
Sharing salvation is against the AUP and grounds for termination.
;)
Josh Reynolds
CIO, SPITwSPOTS
www.spitwspots.comOn 05/26/2015 04:27 PM, That One Guy /sarcasm wrote:
Their product is eternal salvation. I wonder if we could bundle
internet with that?
Speaking of that, what does federal code say about sharing
salvation? I bet somewhere there's a politician trying to calculate a tax on it.
On May 26, 2015 4:04 PM, "Ken Hohhof" <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Those missions also develop a skill at knocking on doors and
selling an idea or a product. Leading to later in life becoming politicians or
starting alarm companies. But I digress.
I still remember living in Buenos Aires for 2 years as a kid, and
2 young Mormons knocked on our door. Turns out they didn’t know how to give
their speech in English, only Spanish, but they stayed for dinner.
From: TJ Trout
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:46 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
They are capitalists first, you can't feed the church on good
will...
On Tue, May 26, 2015 at 1:29 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:
But don’t they also vow to help the less fortunate? If they
had more food on the table than they could eat, wouldn’t they share with their
down-on-their-luck relative and neighbors? Well, they have more Internet than
they can use (how much Internet can you use if you don’t watch porn?) So why
waste the excess Internet when others are in need? Does McDonalds Arctic
Circle stop you from taking a doggie bag and giving your uneaten fries to the
homeless?
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 3:19 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
If you run a coax to the neighbors to use DirecTV or Comcast,
they will call it “theft of service”. Criminal theft of service. Federal code
specifically speaks to this. Just piggybacking on the same idea with the
verbiage.
TWC says:
It is illegal not only to steal cable services but also to
assist others to steal cable services. In fact, federal law provides for
criminal penalties and civil remedies against people who willfully assist
others to steal cable services. Such assistance can take the form of
distributing "pirate" cable television descrambling equipment, assisting others
to make unauthorized connections to cable systems, promoting the free use of
one's wireless broadband network, or assisting others to hack into their modems
and uncap them. Federal statutes prohibit the assistance of theft of services
offered over a cable system.
And it appears to be called “theft of service” if it is
unwanted:
http://www.theinternetpatrol.com/man-charged-with-theft-of-services-for-using-free-wifi-at-coffee-shop-in-for-a-brewed-awakening/
As far as the LDS folks go, it is not intended to scare them,
it is intended to trigger a guilty conscience. They vow to be honest. This is
intended to remind themthat this is not an honest behavior.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:03 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
Not for me. I would avoid the whole theft of service approach.
I think you are on shaky legal ground, plus it sounds lame unless LDS folks
really are easily scared.
Say it is against the Terms of Service they agreed to, and will
result in disconnection of service. That doesn’t mean it is a crime.
The better approach is probably that unsecured WiFi lets anyone
within range capture everything you transmit without encryption, allows them
access to your network and router on the trusted side of your firewall making
it much easier for hackers, and as you mentioned could cause law enforcement to
blame you for bad things someone else did on the Internet via your IP address.
From: Chuck McCown
Sent: Tuesday, May 26, 2015 2:39 PM
To: af@afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Scary Letter
Brett, Ken does this wording work better?
5) Allowing a neighbor to use your WiFi connection instead
of purchasing service for their own house is a crime called “Theft of
Service”. You are collaborating in this theft and jeopardizing your own
service as well.
